Fuck our legal system

[Parlane]

Attaining a driving License ... depends more on memory, than skill.

Skill is usually acquired on the road ... and the skill level usually dependent on the amount of time spent on the road. The longer one takes to gain said skills .... the longer one is expected to live.

How old was he again ... ???

Older than I, and I have yet to confuse the sides of the road.

[Akzle]

He should never be given a lisence again. Driving is not a birth right, it is a skill one learns and then aquires a lisences to show he has mastered the minimum driving standard set in NZ. This person clearly does not meet the standard.

get off KB and have a look at some roads. a license doesn't count for sh*t!!!!!

[GrayWolf]

Ok. I'll play the devils advocate.

Yes, what he did was horrible. Yes, A life is forever altered because of his actions. Yes, our court system hands out more bus tickets then the busses do themselves. But behead him? Really?

ok then....semi behead? Like not quite off

here's a thought for you, if YOU (anyone) did this in a Muslim country, do you think they would'nt publicaly flog you, cut ya bloody arm/leg off? Or stone you to death? His family have disowned him? Well whoop de shit, doesnt replace the other guy's leg does it? And as for 'never doing it again'? If as a Muslim he was out drinking, we can already see his 'frame of mind' towards rules etc.... 10k is almost a bloody insult to the guy who lost a leg. Not even 3 months wages and it's probably going to take far longer for him to return to work in anything like a full productive capacity.

Life ban, imprison, and then ship the bugger back home!! Tough luck if he will experience 'hardship', didnt stop his anti social behaviour that has caused another a lifetime of hardship that cannot be undone.

[DEATH_INC.]

here's a thought for you, if YOU (anyone) did this in a Muslim country, do you think they would'nt publicaly flog you, cut ya bloody arm/leg off? Or stone you to death? His family have disowned him?

Too f*cken right. It's ok for them but not us. F*ck that. Minimum send him back. Or just shoot the pos.

[skippa1]

here's a thought for you, if YOU (anyone) did this in a Muslim country, do you think they would'nt publicaly flog you, cut ya bloody arm/leg off? Or stone you to death? His family have disowned him? Well whoop de shit, doesnt replace the other guy's leg does it? And as for 'never doing it again'? If as a Muslim he was out drinking, we can already see his 'frame of mind' towards rules etc.... 10k is almost a bloody insult to the guy who lost a leg. Not even 3 months wages and it's probably going to take far longer for him to return to work in anything like a full productive capacity.

Life ban, imprison, and then ship the bugger back home!! Tough luck if he will experience 'hardship', didnt stop his anti social behaviour that has caused another a lifetime of hardship that cannot be undone.

not nice to miss quote people you know. Only the last sentence was mine....not the whole statement....but what the fuck aye, as long as it suits you

[GrayWolf]

not nice to miss quote people you know. Only the last sentence was mine....not the whole statement....but what the fuck aye, as long as it suits you

Wow defensive, are'nt we???
I will apologise I did 'multi quote' but???? Correct the last sentence was yours!!!

but hey, why let a mishap get in the way of a good 'slagging' aye?

[skippa1]

Wow defensive, are'nt we???
I will apologise I did 'multi quote' but???? Correct the last sentence was yours!!!

but hey, why let a mishap get in the way of a good 'slagging' aye?

not slagging ya old fella(apparantly defensiveness is catchy) but if you were trying to make a point at my expense so I felt an adjustment of the ledger was in order.
Keep calm and carry on

[GrayWolf]

not slagging ya old fella(apparantly defensiveness is catchy) but if you were trying to make a point at my expense so I felt an adjustment of the ledger was in order.
Keep calm and carry on

as ya were sonny.... now go get my, pipe, slippers and a cup of tea with 2 digestive biscuits!!

[skippa1]

as ya were sonny.... now go get my, pipe, slippers and a cup of tea with 2 digestive biscuits!!

no tea for you.....metamusil and off to the potty

[Glowerss]

Home detention isn't a punishment. It's a vacation. I don't understand New Zealands obsession with home detention for serious crimes. Back home you'll get home detention (and in most cases theyll cuff an ankle bracelet on you just to make sure you don't leave) if you're on bail for money laundering or some other white collar crap.

Getting caught driving drunk is a minimum 6 month license suspension and 10,000$. Just for driving drunk. Add in hitting somebody, causing am amputation, you'd be sitting in the pen for a good 1-2 years at mimimum on top of paying reparations.

As somebody who's only been in the country 4-5 years myself, if I had been stupid enough to do something like that, I would fully expect to be deported after a lengthy stint in jail.


Slightly off topic, but how exactly did the motorcyclist get hit? I regularly drive the length southern motorway home after 10pm, and even if the car had it's lights off, I can't see how you wouldn't see the other guy coming. The motorway is extremely well lit, you can see ages ahead of you, and it's 3 lanes the entire way.

Not knockin the guy that got hit or sayin it's his fault or anything like that. Just tryin to figure out how the poor guy got had his life drastically changed. I'd rather not run into the same situation

[Banditbandit]

Home detention isn't a punishment. It's a vacation.

Tried it have you? Try staying within the bounds of your home (house and section) for two years ... No going to the dairy for milk or newspaper ... "I'll just nip down to the .." No sorry - you can't ... "Walk the dog?" No sorry - you can't ... "Pick up the kids after school" No sorry ... "Drive ..." NO ... "enrol in a class" No sorry ...

And yes, you do get to wear a braclet to track your wearabouts so you don't walk the dog ..

Not that I am saying that it was a suitable punishement for this one .. but I don't see it would be a vacation .. you'd get just as bloody sick of sitting in front of the TV every day as you would sitting in a cell ...

[Glowerss]

Tried it have you? Try staying within the bounds of your home (house and section) for two years ... No going to the dairy for milk or newspaper ... "I'll just nip down to the .." No sorry - you can't ... "Walk the dog?" No sorry - you can't ... "Pick up the kids after school" No sorry ... "Drive ..." NO ... "enrol in a class" No sorry ...

And yes, you do get to wear a braclet to track your wearabouts so you don't walk the dog ..

Not that I am saying that it was a suitable punishement for this one .. but I don't see it would be a vacation .. you'd get just as bloody sick of sitting in front of the TV every day as you would sitting in a cell ...

There are an awful lot of inmates who would completely disagree with you. There are almost an infinite number of things you can do within your house. Online courses exist. Owning a computer and an internet connection grants you access to an awful lot of stuff. Not to mention you can still see your friends/family/dog every damn day.

And it isn't even 2 years. Homie got 6 months. Shit, some people making staying at home a profession.

Sorry, 6 months home detention isn't a punishment, it's a vacation.

Now, if they take away all of his shit here, then I would agree it's a punishment. Leave him at home with no television, no phone, no computer, no video game consoles. Nothing.

That, I would be fine with. That's jail without everyone else having to pay for it. Sweet as.

The only tangible "punishment" in there is that he can't work. Boo fuckin Hoo.

Dude who LOST HIS FUCKIN LEG probably spent a hell of a lot longer in the hospital/ at home /rehab// learning to get around with 1 leg then 6 months.

[FJRider]

Older than I, and I have yet to confuse the sides of the road.

Perhaps you handle your booze better.

And it wasn't just the wrong side of the road ... it was the wrong side of the motorway.

[FJRider]

There are an awful lot of inmates who would completely disagree with you. There are almost an infinite number of things you can do within your house. Online courses exist. Owning a computer and an internet connection grants you access to an awful lot of stuff. Not to mention you can still see your friends/family/dog every damn day.

And it isn't even 2 years. Homie got 6 months. Shit, some people making staying at home a profession.

Sorry, 6 months home detention isn't a punishment, it's a vacation.

Now, if they take away all of his shit here, then I would agree it's a punishment. Leave him at home with no television, no phone, no computer, no video game consoles. Nothing.

That, I would be fine with. That's jail without everyone else having to pay for it. Sweet as.

The only tangible "punishment" in there is that he can't work. Boo fuckin Hoo.

Dude who LOST HIS FUCKIN LEG probably spent a hell of a lot longer in the hospital/ at home /rehab// learning to get around with 1 leg then 6 months.

For 6 months he is confined to his home. (alone ... ??) Any income (benefit .. ??) he gets he can't go out and spend. After paying ten grand to his victim ... the phone bill needs paid (to get online) power bill needs paid (to cook) food needs bought ... His family are in India ... and they won't help him.
The loss of license was for eighteen months ... after a loss of license for twelve months and one day ... a total resit is required to get a drivers license. (Learners,restricted ETC)

And I wonder if his employer wants him back. And if the work visa isn't granted ... it's home James for him anyway.

And the court conviction will see he doesn't get another entry visa ... again.

[FJRider]

Our legal system?
Try working with it on a daily basis...

I've found ... minefields are more fun. With them ... you at least KNOW what makes them explode ...