New bike owner (Nick13)

**Nick13** · 21st October 2012, 17:56

Hi people, im new 2 this site and new to bikes. Ive brought a 2008 VL250. Its standard as. Im wondering what i can do 2 change the sound 2 sound better....etc changing exhaust 2 twin pipes or whatever. Any help would be great, cheers:

**FJRider** · 21st October 2012, 17:58

Unless you are on a full licence ... LAM's legislation say you cant.

**Nick13** · 21st October 2012, 18:01

Whys that? does it give it more power? What do i do 2 change the sound tho? and idea who sells the bits

**FJRider** · 21st October 2012, 18:09

Originally Posted by Nick13

Whys that? does it give it more power? What do i do 2 change the sound tho? and idea who sells the bits

If it doesn't change the power to weight ratio ... you can. Most aftermarket ones will by small degree's.( Hardy mind blowing agreed) ... but them's the laws. See your local bike shop

**mossy1200** · 21st October 2012, 18:10

Originally Posted by FJRider

Unless you are on a full licence ... LAM's legislation say you cant.

I wouldnt expect a pipe change on this model wouldnt push the power to weight over 150kW/1000kg.

Technically the issue would be if a bike was near the power to weight ratio prior to changes of this type.
I dont think the popo will ask you to test a 250 custom for hp issues.

A ducati 649 monster maybe.

**FJRider** · 21st October 2012, 18:45

Originally Posted by mossy1200

I wouldnt expect a pipe change on this model wouldnt push the power to weight over 150kW/1000kg.

Technically the issue would be if a bike was near the power to weight ratio prior to changes of this type.
I dont think the popo will ask you to test a 250 custom for hp issues.

A ducati 649 monster maybe.

At no stage are ANY limits to power increases stated. Just ... NO modifications to the power to weight ratio is allowed .... and I doubt if any other intent/meaning by those that drew up the legislation ... exists.

The "No modification" rule is easier to enforce. (Period)

At worst ... a Compliance notice may be issued to confirm LAM's compliance of that motorcycle. (At owners expense to do so)

**mossy1200** · 21st October 2012, 18:51

Originally Posted by FJRider

At no stage are ANY limits to power increases stated. Just ... NO modifications to the power to weight ratio is allowed .... and I doubt if any other intent/meaning by those that drew up the legislation ... exists.

The "No modification" rule is easier to enforce. (Period)

At worst ... a Compliance notice may be issued to confirm LAM's compliance of that motorcycle. (At owners expense to do so)

Average non bike riding popo wont know its been changed.
Bike riding popo wont waste his time asking for a custom 250 to be tested.
Keep the original pipes at home would be a option. Just in case it ever comes to needing them to get a LAMS complient warrent of fitness.

Its not to the letter of the law but its not pushing the power to weight ratios.
Every second 250 sport bike is going to have a after market pipe. Especially older inline 4s that the original has rusted out by now.

**Nick13** · 21st October 2012, 18:56

Ok cheers, any bike shop would help out right? im sure a little extra power wont hurt as its probably lost power with me on it

**Nick13** · 21st October 2012, 18:57

Any online shops that u guys no of?

**FJRider** · 21st October 2012, 18:59

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Average non bike riding popo wont know its been changed.

Average non bike riding popo know rules on speeding and dangerous riding ... which brings you to THEIR attention ....and stops you. The riders actions (after that) then become of great importance (usually) to ANY outcome of the stop that may follow.

Don't give a reason to be stopped ... may be a start.

**James Deuce** · 21st October 2012, 19:04

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Every second 250 sport bike is going to have a after market pipe. Especially older inline 4s that the original has rusted out by now.

Yamaha and Honda often used stainless headers and collectors and alloy mufflers on their sports 250s and 400s. Normally, the implementation of a new licensing scheme attracts attention.

Be prepared to pay up if you get caught Nick.

**FJRider** · 21st October 2012, 19:58

Originally Posted by Nick13

Ok cheers, any bike shop would help out right? im sure a little extra power wont hurt as its probably lost power with me on it

You first have to get the bike UP to the manufacturers claimed horsepower .... and if it's a "used" bike ... it will most likely be down a few ponies anyway. (age and abuse does that)

A dyno test isn't as unusual or expensive as it used to be. A recent printout result of such a test may keep plod happy. And give you valuable information on YOUR bikes performance ...

Will at least be to your advantage.

**YellowDog** · 21st October 2012, 20:08

1. Remove the CAT, if it has one.
2. Change the OEM air filter for a K&N or something similar.
3. Pop the rivets on your exhaust and start unpacking and drilling holes.

**Akzle** · 22nd October 2012, 19:01

Originally Posted by YellowDog

2. Change the OEM air filter for a K&N or something similar.

K&N let more shit through. might not be a problem, might. something like 97% filterning for a K&N vs 99%+ for stock paper filters... (drill a 2" hole in yer airbox instead)

**haydes55** · 27th October 2012, 13:38

Originally Posted by Akzle

K&N let more shit through. might not be a problem, might. something like 97% filterning for a K&N vs 99%+ for stock paper filters... (drill a 2" hole in yer airbox instead)

That's without the filter oil, spray with the proper oil every so often to keep it 99%.