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    Quote Originally Posted by Genestho View Post
    Sadly, I think it's a case of preaching to the converted, but how many would actually be willing to go into the coal face?

    From what I recall CYFS, Plunket (or insert name of any mental health, social supportive or care giving NGO agency or otherwise); are either under staffed, under funded, red taped to the max and under resourced. It's been that way for SO long.
    Ha! I agree with you so forgive my cynical reaction.

    I started a thread a while ago to support the awful work that CYFS social workers have to deal with. The main reaction here was f**k CYFS yadda yadda. If that's really the general attitude of the kiwi population then we have no show of changing the dysfunctional horror which some families live with.

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...highlight=CYFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post

    you're missing the point entirely :brickwall:
    it doesn't matter who's in or legislating what. beating a baby to death is just wrong. communist, democrat, republican, chink, spic, sand-coon, nigger or irish cunt, IT'S WRONG.



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    No, I wasn't missing a point. You said the usual non conformist BS, criminals in Beehive yadayada, it watered down what ever "point" you were attempting to put across.

    That's some stylish labels you use, by the way!
    Well, man of Green font, the fact that beating a baby or anything else to death is wrong, is clearly something everyone agrees on, of course.

    But yet, here the masses are again crying and wailing and waiting for "some other people" to fix it because it's "someone else's" underpaid-overworked job, in OUR society.

    All Good. See ya next week - same topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Ha! I agree with you so forgive my cynical reaction.

    I started a thread a while ago to support the awful work that CYFS social workers have to deal with. The main reaction here was f**k CYFS yadda yadda. If that's really the general attitude of the kiwi population then we have no show of changing the dysfunctional horror which some families live with.

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...highlight=CYFS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genestho View Post
    No, I wasn't missing a point. You said the usual non conformist BS, criminals in Beehive yadayada, it watered down what ever "point" you were attempting to put across.

    But yet, here the masses are again crying and wailing and waiting for "some other people" to fix it because it's "someone else's" underpaid-overworked job, in OUR society.
    *yes you were
    *no it didn't
    *see my previous post
    *not my society

    ...'until then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    *not my society

    ...'until then![/COLOR]
    I'm sick of your crap like this ... Unless you do not live in GodZone, then this IS your society - your stance that it is not your society and not your Government is a wimping cop out - you do not need to do anything because it is "not yours ..."

    Well ... I call bullshit !!!! You're worse than the wimping liberals because you refuse to do anything, and hide behind some bullshit pseudo-political stance, which I suspect is based on a ridiculous mis-interpretation of Anarchism ...

    I don't give a flying fuck whether you think that because you were not asked if you wanted to be part of this society, whether no-one asked if you would follow the rules or not .. our prisons are filled with people who think that .. and some of us here think that too ...

    We are here, we ALL benefit or suffer from what ever happens in our country ... don't tell me, in the same breath, that you ride a motorcycle and are not part of our society .. If you are not part of our society GET OFF OUR ROADS !!!


    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

    You, Sir, are doing fucking nothing!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    I'm sick of your crap like this ... Unless you do not live in GodZone, then this IS your society - your stance that it is not your society and not your Government is a wimping cop out - you do not need to do anything because it is "not yours ..."

    Well ... I call bullshit !!!! You're worse than the wimping liberals because you refuse to do anything, and hide behind some bullshit pseudo-political stance, which I suspect is based on a ridiculous mis-interpretation of Anarchism ...

    I don't give a flying fuck whether you think that because you were not asked if you wanted to be part of this society, whether no-one asked if you would follow the rules or not .. our prisons are filled with people who think that .. and some of us here think that too ...

    We are here, we ALL benefit or suffer from what ever happens in our country ... don't tell me, in the same breath, that you ride a motorcycle and are not part of our society .. If you are not part of our society GET OFF OUR ROADS !!!


    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

    You, Sir, are doing fucking nothing!!!

    You forget that planet Akzle, though it shares a common physical location, is a parallel universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    the chances are fairly high that the scum who killed the boy was treated the same way by his parents etc,. Its a vicious circle
    So fucking what!!! And IF it is the case then he should, from personal experience, know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    I'm sick of your crap like this ... Unless you do not live in GodZone, then this IS your society - your stance that it is not your society and not your Government is a wimping cop out - you do not need to do anything because it is "not yours ..."

    Well ... I call bullshit !!!! You're worse than the wimping liberals because you refuse to do anything, and hide behind some bullshit pseudo-political stance, which I suspect is based on a ridiculous mis-interpretation of Anarchism ...

    I don't give a flying fuck whether you think that because you were not asked if you wanted to be part of this society, whether no-one asked if you would follow the rules or not .. our prisons are filled with people who think that .. and some of us here think that too ...

    We are here, we ALL benefit or suffer from what ever happens in our country ... don't tell me, in the same breath, that you ride a motorcycle and are not part of our society .. If you are not part of our society GET OFF OUR ROADS !!!


    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

    You, Sir, are doing fucking nothing!!!
    Wot he said 1000%

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRMAN View Post
    You forget that planet Akzle, though it shares a common physical location, is a parallel universe.
    Planet Akzle is the home of the Sovereign Man which you can google if you can be bothered.

    As a shortcut, here's a video of Homo Sapien sovereign man trying to interact on Planet Earth:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    So fucking what!!! And IF it is the case then he should, from personal experience, know better.
    Yes - I'm inclined to agree. A visicous cycle is a reason why something happens ... Sexual abuse and child abuse is often caused by offenders who have been offended against ...

    The answer is Bullet in the Back of the head .. the cycle will NEVER be repeated by that person ... cycle ended ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Planet Akzle is the home of the Sovereign Man which you can google if you can be bothered.

    As a shortcut, here's a video of Homo Sapien sovereign man trying to interact on Planet Earth:
    Nice political fiction ... there are dreamers and idiots in all political segments ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Yes - I'm inclined to agree. A visicous cycle is a reason why something happens ... Sexual abuse and child abuse is often caused by offenders who have been offended against ...

    The answer is Bullet in the Back of the head .. the cycle will NEVER be repeated by that person ... cycle ended ...
    Worse still it gets offered as a defensenot sure whats worse,someone actually using the fact that there old man bum fucked them as an excuse to do it to a child or a justice system that listens to it and gives them a limp wristed sentence because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Worse still it gets offered as a defensenot sure whats worse,someone actually using the fact that there old man bum fucked them as an excuse to do it to a child or a justice system that listens to it and gives them a limp wristed sentence because of it.
    I'm not so sure .. I think that what is worse is people similar to you acknowledging that it is a reason why child abuse and sexual abuse occurs .. but then not doing anything other than demanding higher sentnces, more punative sentences for the victims/offenders .. who you acknowledger are the same people ..

    I say - bullet through the head for child murderers ... there's no excuse ... but let's ALSO do something about the reasons why this happens ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    I'm not so sure .. I think that what is worse is people similar to you acknowledging that it is a reason why child abuse and sexual abuse occurs .. but then not doing anything other than demanding higher sentnces, more punative sentences for the victims/offenders .. who you acknowledger are the same people ..

    I say - bullet through the head for child murderers ... there's no excuse ... but let's ALSO do something about the reasons why this happens ...
    Think you mis read my post,i dont accept that because its done to me it gives me a reason to do it to others,far from it.As for the reasons it happens,its not rocket science eh and i dont need an army of well intentioned social workers coming up with a different reason each week as to why it happens.It happens because theres a heap of fuck ups out there,moneywhats that got to do with abusing a kid?nothing at all,social enviromentagain a load of tripe.Head outta the sand eh all the govt depts full of whoever with whatever degrees in anything wont change a thing,they have all been around forever but has it made any difference?.Cant shoot the fuck ups so whats next then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Planet Akzle is the home of the Sovereign Man which you can google if you can be bothered.

    As a shortcut, here's a video of Homo Sapien sovereign man trying to interact on Planet Earth:
    Well fuck a doodle doo, those baliff mother fuckers don't take a lot of shit do they.

    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Think you mis read my post,i dont accept that because its done to me it gives me a reason to do it to others,far from it.As for the reasons it happens,its not rocket science eh and i dont need an army of well intentioned social workers coming up with a different reason each week as to why it happens.It happens because theres a heap of fuck ups out there,moneywhats that got to do with abusing a kid?nothing at all,social enviromentagain a load of tripe.Head outta the sand eh all the govt depts full of whoever with whatever degrees in anything wont change a thing,they have all been around forever but has it made any difference?.Cant shoot the fuck ups so whats next then?
    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    So fucking what!!! And IF it is the case then he should, from personal experience, know better.
    Yes, for many I suspect it really is that black and white and they go on to live productive lives and we never hear about them.

    For some, they've been so mentally damaged and broken by what they've been through, they don't view the world the same as us any more, no longer by choice do they act.
    Some aren't picked up on until it's far too late.

    Some are like watching a ticking time bomb, sadly quite a few big institutions that housed these types were shut down, in favour of community housing.

    Some are just down right evil, born evil, choose to be evil and live amongst us, which will have nothing to do with status, race nor anything else bandied about.

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