MotoGP 2012

[Mental Trousers]

Serious Mental ( With a hint a scarcasim) do you not think the proffessionals that have PROVEN history and are paid mega bucks would not have tried your $5 fix if that was all it was gunna take?

Reading stuff and thinking about it is healthy, but dont start taking your self to seriously dude untill you have the experience and proven history as a machine builder or have been a test rider for a proffesional team

Engineers, Designers and Professional Teams aren't perfect, they don't always get it right. Sometimes it takes doing something dumb to shift things along. Bolting lead to it may have made it worse, or it might not have. The point is those Engineers, Designers and Professionals have spent the last few years not getting it right and something needed to happen. They'd gone well past the point of doing things the way they're normally done.

It happens in my line of work. I'll sometimes get to a point where nothing I do improves things no matter what I try but then I'll try some things that are out of left field and they show results that move things in a different direction.

When what you're doing isn't working do something else.

[Shaun]

Engineers, Designers and Professional Teams aren't perfect, they don't always get it right. Sometimes it takes doing something dumb to shift things along. Bolting lead to it may have made it worse, or it might not have. The point is those Engineers, Designers and Professionals have spent the last few years not getting it right and something needed to happen. They'd gone well past the point of doing things the way they're normally done.

It happens in my line of work. I'll sometimes get to a point where nothing I do improves things no matter what I try but then I'll try some things that are out of left field and they show results that move things in a different direction.

When what you're doing isn't working do something else.

as I said before shane, if the experienced proffessionals could not get it write in 2 years of trying, there is and was NO hope for the Ducati ( Since Stoner left) he could ride there old 800 ( Less tourque from the 800 MAY have helped) as he can be a flat track rider, ie rear wheel stearing, rossi is a centimetre perfect style of rider, ( He also can rear wheel ride, but not as aggressively as Stoner) Heyden unfortunately is past his very best, ( although still extremelly good) so the combo was up shit creek from the get go.

The Motor angle is wrong, as they cannot move it forward or back enough to keep the weight ballance, and cannot rotate it forward or back enough due to height and other reasons
The Carbon is to rigid giving no flex for turn in and feel
The carbon swingarm again to rigid, giving not enough flex to get traction down
The different length swingarms over the last 2 years was to try and overcome this problem.

As discussed many times, the position of the motor is totally wrong for weight balance and tourque inertia , so NO WAY would a hunk of lead be of any use, if it did give a gain, there still would have been a loss, most probally highlighting the lack of flex giving the rider the lack of feel.

Of course my opinions as yours are purelly based on shite I have read

[Mental Trousers]

Of course my opinions as yours are purelly based on shite I have read

Not entirely. You've got a bit more experience.

[Shaun]

Not entirely. You've got a bit more experience.

does not mean I am write though dude, we all have opinions just like arseholes

[Brian d marge]

That was one of the questions for my motorcycle city and guilds exam way back in the day
List the pros and cons of a 90 deg v twin

The interview with JB was telling...
Stephen

[Shaun]

That was one of the questions for my motorcycle city and guilds exam way back in the day
List the pros and cons of a 90 deg v twin

The interview with JB was telling...
Stephen

Yep, the whole bike needs building to work with each bit, ya cannot slap a frame around a motor

[denill]

The interview with JB was telling...
Stephen

What interview?

[Shaun]

What interview?

Some one will post a link to it mate, it was very good reading

[roogazza]

Hey Gaz, your mate could give Tracy a few lessons on how to take defeat. He's got pretty good at it over the last infamous two years.

Without doubt Bill, Vale could easily give Stoner microphone lessons. While there he should give advice on handling himself as World Champion. (but that's all pointless now)
Stoners gone now, MM will fill his shoes nicely.
Today is Vale's first ride back on the yamaha, will he click right away ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Without doubt Bill, Vale could easily give Stoner microphone lessons. While there he should give advice on handling himself as World Champion. (but that's all pointless now)
Stoners gone now, MM will fill his shoes nicely.
Today is Vale's first ride back on the yamaha, will he click right away ?

I see Stoner is making frineds in the V8's already!

Stupid Prick!!!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Nov/121113c.htm

[Drew]

I see Stoner is making frineds in the V8's already!

Stupid Prick!!!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Nov/121113c.htm

Shit he's good at making friends isn't he.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Shit he's good at making friends isn't he.

Yeah that's well stoopid! They'll take great delight in punting him into the gravel at every avail opp.

[Shaun]

I see Stoner is making frineds in the V8's already!

Stupid Prick!!!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Nov/121113c.htm

A Brilliant rider he is, PR skills are bit debateable though

[roogazza]

I see Stoner is making frineds in the V8's already!

Stupid Prick!!!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Nov/121113c.htm

Great rider, but ?
He was home schooled from about age twelve, might have missed a few units.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Great rider, but ?
He was home schooled from about age twelve, might have missed a few units.

Dumbest thing I've seen from him so far!