Another two-year-old toddler beaten to death

[mashman]

I phoned a guy this morning offering him work. No chance he replied...he'd gapped it to Christchurch where the work, and money is...there is so much work available and thousands of immigrants will be brought in if the above mentioned fuckers dont grab the bull by the horns and pitch into this society of ours and rebuild our main Southern city!

As for this legal system, Akle and the society you despise, it works for some and doesn't bother a whole lot more. Many would be happy with change but are trucking along just nicely so to all those who cry foul, get off yer collective asses and MAKE a change.

Peace out.

Why should people move from their homes and their lives? Perhaps money isn't everything?

We have representatives to do that kind of thing for us. How do you change that? because they hold the purse strings.

[scumdog]

Why should people move from their homes and their lives? Perhaps money isn't everything?.

No, money isn't everything - but the ones that think that and don't want to move for more $$ should never complain if they feel deprived.

[Ocean1]

The skills may not be marketable, but that doesn't mean that they are unnecessary.

Yes, I'm afraid that it does.

The fact that nobody finds it worth the asking rate suggests exactly that, their skills, (again, or lack of them) are unnecessary.

Otherwise they'd be working, innit?

[mashman]

So if they don't want to move? - put up with what you have, if you're motivated to 'get ahead' you'll ove - even if only temprarily.

Christchurch shouldn't HAVE to import workers from other countries - hell if THEY are prepared to come there from another country Kiwis should be prepared to move a few 100km - I would.

(Next thing a bunch of racist twats will be 'moanin' 'bout them furriners stealin' our jobs'.)

Why do people need to want to get ahead? Perhaps they're happy where they are with what they have?

I agree... and I wasn't far from taking a job in Chch last year. Fortunately picked something up locally so I could stay with my family. I'd rather be broke with them than earning mega bucks and away from them. Does that mean I'm a lazy cunt?

I already have one of your jobs.

[mashman]

No, money isn't everything - but the ones that think that and don't want to move for more $$ should never complain if they feel deprived.

There's more to life scummy.

Yes, I'm afraid that it does.

The fact that nobody finds it worth the asking rate suggests exactly that, their skills, (again, or lack of them) are unnecessary.

Otherwise they'd be working, innit?

That's our loss and a few's gain.

So why is the job there?

Only if there are jobs for everyone at decent rates.

[_Shrek_]

And his mother was scared for her little boy... but not scared enough todo anything about it.
When will women in this country learn? Having no father figure is better than an abuser.

have you heard of "battered woman syndrome" coz there is a shit load of woman out there with it, little quips (like the one above) don't help them after they or their little ones have suffered,

The primary reason that there isn't enough money to go around is because

is there are to many lazy bistards etc.... flogging the dole, sickness etc...

living & working in Auckland I did line haul.... got payed $7.32 phr that was mid 80's to 90 &
worked 118 hrs a week while the lazy prick next door got payed the same(800) for doing jack shit, & his attitude was why should I
& I see no change in their attitudes in the last 20 + years, except they now blame us for their drinking, gambling & drug problem because they have nothing to do, then take it out on the innocent because they're to weak to face up to what they have become

& the pc brgade jumps in & says we need more money for these poor folk blah blah blah,

take the ........ out the back save the tax payer $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ if they are found guilty & after a year or two we will see a big reduction in most areas

[scumdog]

Why do people need to want to get ahead? Perhaps they're happy where they are with what they have?

I agree... and I wasn't far from taking a job in Chch last year. Fortunately picked something up locally so I could stay with my family. I'd rather be broke with them than earning mega bucks and away from them. Does that mean I'm a lazy cunt?

I already have one of your jobs.

I was'nt suggesting the 'wife-n-kids part of the family be left behinb by any means - they can move too - OK itmight mean leaving grandparents and cuzzies behind, as I mentioned, possibly temporarily.

[scumdog]

There's more to life scummy..

Perzactly what I was hinting at - only I added if money is not your bag and you can't be naffed working for it then don't complain whe you don't have enough.

If you can happily live without it good on you.

[Ocean1]

So why is the job there?

Only if there are jobs for everyone at decent rates.

That's only difficult to understand if you insist that every man's work is worth the same.

In the real world people find they can afford to have someone build them a fence, for example, for say $1000. But if it costs too much more they'll either decide it's not worth the cost, or perhaps thay'll do it themselves.

The work's ALWAYS there if you want it. But you'll be working for whatever the market offers.

So the real trick is to arm yourself with as valuable a set of skills as you can manage.


Or go hungry.

[mashman]

is there are to many lazy bistards etc.... flogging the dole, sickness etc...

living & working in Auckland I did line haul.... got payed $7.32 phr that was mid 80's to 90 &
worked 118 hrs a week while the lazy prick next door got payed the same(800) for doing jack shit, & his attitude was why should I
& I see no change in their attitudes in the last 20 + years, except they now blame us for their drinking, gambling & drug problem because they have nothing to do, then take it out on the innocent because they're to weak to face up to what they have become

& the pc brgade jumps in & says we need more money for these poor folk blah blah blah,

take the ........ out the back save the tax payer $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ if they are found guilty & after a year or two we will see a big reduction in most areas

They are a tiny portion of the country and as mentioned many many many times before and even admitted by the govt, there aren't enough jobs to go around, let alone well paid ones. To the extent where they're legislating for lower wages for "kids" and trying to force them into work if they don't have a good enough excuse not to. Oh the joys of this society.

Ahhhh, the days of free education, affordable accommodation, affordable drink and food, plenty of "well paid" jobs etc... nothing like equating then to now. The only thing that has changed is that the cost of living v's a living wage has changed in favour of the cost of living. There will always be drinking problems (not restricted to "them), gambling problems (stock market with billions of spare change lost) etc...

The PC brigade? haven't heard that one in a while, although it does seem to go hand in hand with someone bleating about the good old days. Do you refuse to accept that life is more difficult these days? Granted "it's" still doable and people can still achieve, but the well paid jobs just aren't there for everyone to do so.

Then hyperinflation ensues and we carry on in a vicious circle until you are the one that's being dragged out the back.

[RDJ]

To continue where Ocean1 left off: .... because anybody who wants to work but doesn't want to work for the going rate commensurate with his or her skills, is expecting someone else to work and produce extra, have it taken by the taxman, Government overhead and inefficiency to further reduce what is left over, and Govt to hand it out back to him/her to subsidise his/her lack of work ethic. That sounds harsh, but reality can't be negotiated with. It can be ignored for a time... But in the long run, something which can't continue, won't.

[mashman]

I was'nt suggesting the 'wife-n-kids part of the family be left behinb by any means - they can move too - OK itmight mean leaving grandparents and cuzzies behind, as I mentioned, possibly temporarily.

Perzactly what I was hinting at - only I added if money is not your bag and you can't be naffed working for it then don't complain whe you don't have enough.

If you can happily live without it good on you.

I wasn't suggesting that you were. When was the last time you discussed moving your family? It's more than the friends and the family etc... a mental state if you like. Why move if you're "happy"?

I'll remember to pass that on to every housewife/husband the next time they get together for a drinky. Get a job, I don't care that it'll cost more in childcare than you'll earn, but at least you'll have the right to complain

I'd love to... but I have a family to prepare a future for.

That's only difficult to understand if you insist that every man's work is worth the same.

In the real world people find they can afford to have someone build them a fence, for example, for say $1000. But if it costs too much more they'll either decide it's not worth the cost, or perhaps thay'll do it themselves.

The work's ALWAYS there if you want it. But you'll be working for whatever the market offers.

So the real trick is to arm yourself with as valuable a set of skills as you can manage.

Or go hungry.

Oh I understand it, yet I still value the time and effort of every job just as equally as my own... but I'm not the one paying the wages. As I said earlier, start to remove what some people require and some deem unnecessary and it'll turn into a cluster fuck.

I built a fence once. 70m of it. Fucked my a muscle in my ribs somewhere drilling through compacted clay with the auger, but hey, the fence went up. My mate was stood over me laughing and everytime I laughed it hurt like fooken hell. Anyways, the real world is fucked and getting more and more fuckdered by the day. At some point we're gonna have to start building fences because they need to be built, not because it's nice to have one.

That is the bit I refuse to accept as common sense. The market is a sham. Yes it's the real world, but it's still an absolute sham and society and its structure keep it that way because of our ignorance of what it is and our preconceptions of what others are worth. Damn we'd be so much better off without it.

Nah, that's the easy bit if you're willing as you say, expensive these days, but what isn't. The trick is accepting that there are people who for whatever don't work, realising that there aren't enough jobs for everyone and realising that the lazy fucks should be catered for too. Depending on how you do it who knows, the lazy fucks might actually chip in some. Guess we'll never know as the market won't allow it.

Dooooooooomed to absolute failure and could take us with them should they decide to kill the farmers and eat the produce.

[madandy]

And so everyone in the new system wants a RSV like yours, a BMW car, a swimming pool in the back yard.etc etc....how?

[RDJ]

And so everyone in the new system wants a RSV like yours, a BMW car, a swimming pool in the back yard.etc etc....how?

For a lot of people - OPM (Other People's Money). The felon who killed the boy looked fit enough to work, but was he working? I understand from news reports he was paid to lie around the home on OPM..

[mashman]

And so everyone in the new system wants a RSV like yours, a BMW car, a swimming pool in the back yard.etc etc....how?

Build them. You need manpower and resources. There will have to be a class test for those who want an RSV though.