Justify the price: email to LTSA

**Berg** · 25th November 2012, 17:24

Originally Posted by Glowerss

What about the 100s or potentially thousands you don't pull over for driving like polite responsible motorists?

Only so many hours in a day

Should have seen the potential killer last week. Nice truck and semi with zero hint as to what was hidden below. Not going into details but a crash looking for a place to happen.

**bogan** · 25th November 2012, 17:52

Originally Posted by Berg

As for increasing safety lol, why is it the ones I meet without rego or WOF have just done something that says "pick me" like running red lights, failing to stop for stop signs or passing dangerously?

Cos you don't 'meet' the ones who have done nothing wrong

**Akzle** · 25th November 2012, 18:17

Originally Posted by Berg

who's really to blame for the step up of demerits, fines and consequences for riding without rego plus its effect should somebody inadvertently forget or miss their rego date.

that would be the duly elected rulers. i'm pretty sure no-one has voted to be fined or imprisoned. most people tend to want to avoid those outcomes.

(well, technically anyone who votes is voting for just that, but... y'know what i'm getting at.)

remind me again how (more severely) punishing the few, benefits the many?

**Ender EnZed** · 25th November 2012, 19:57

Originally Posted by Berg

35 demerit points (rumor has it soon to be 50) when caught inadvertently riding with expired rego

The demerits only apply if your rego is on hold, not just expired.

**Usarka** · 25th November 2012, 20:14

Originally Posted by Berg

Thanks to all those who fail to register their bikes or cars and or ride/drive them while exempt from rego. Its people like you to thank for 35 demerit points (rumor has it soon to be 50) when caught inadvertently riding with expired rego and the possibility of your plates being removed when caught on exempt rego. No I haven't been caught, I find it far easier to pay my way now matter how much I hate it. If you think riding bikes here in NZ (a relative riding paradise) is expensive, piss off over seas to England and see what it costs to ride in constant traffic and gridlock. Meh, think I'll just pay my way here.

So..... you are whining that those who don't have a current rego should blame those that don't have a current rego....???

Share those drugs bro.

**Berg** · 26th November 2012, 14:03

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

The demerits only apply if your rego is on hold, not just expired.

35 for on hold 15 for expired rego

**davereid** · 26th November 2012, 18:46

Originally Posted by Berg

35 for on hold 15 for expired rego

20 demerits says NZTA and demerits don't apply to tickets that are not issued by a police officer on-the-spot. ie meter-maid, or tickets that arrive in the mail.

Also demerit disqualifications only occur if they are served on you, and they time out and just go away.

So as long as you are never silly enough to use a real address in your dealings with nzta your only risk is being served side of road by popo.

Given that I have not licensed for years, and have zero tickets, it remains the thing I worry about least when riding.

Although I have bought a new motorbike with my savings.

ANPR will decrease the risk even more... I will be able to swap plates, and the ANPR will just smile and wave me on.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/offe...t.html#vehicle

**High Lord** · 27th November 2012, 06:55

Dear Enzo

On behalf of Hon Simon Bridges, Associate Minister of Transport, thank you for your email regarding temporary exemptions from continuous licensing and the Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme (LAMS).

Your email has been placed before the Minister for his consideration.

Kind regards,

Cameron

Thats nice....

**Swoop** · 27th November 2012, 07:37

Originally Posted by Usarka

Dear sir,

Motorcyclists are a minority, and studies have shown that most would not vote against their party of choice just because of a motorcycle related policy.

So fuck off you cunt.

Regards,
The minister.

PS - lick my balls.

About time we started getting some honest information from politicians!

**rastuscat** · 27th November 2012, 14:25

Have had replies from Ministers which showed their lack of understanding of the issue I have raised.

Basically, Ministers have so many bloody things to worry about they can't actually be proficient in any of them.

It takes them a while to get their minions to answer the questions, then it just consists of the party line anyway.

Almost a waste of time writing to them.

**Akzle** · 27th November 2012, 14:43

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Have had replies from Ministers which showed their lack of understanding of the issue I have raised.

Basically, Ministers have so many bloody things to worry about they can't actually be proficient in any of them.

It takes them a while to get their minions to answer the questions, then it just consists of the party line anyway.

Almost a waste of time writing to them.

rastus. you're not towing the party line.
has your son become enlightened and highjacked your account?
have you been hit on the head?
are you considering quitting the mob?

i would totally buy you a beer if you did.

(or became a subversive, operating from within.)

**oneofsix** · 27th November 2012, 14:50

Originally Posted by Akzle

rastus. you're not towing the party line.
has your son become enlightened and highjacked your account?
have you been hit on the head?
are you considering quitting the mob?

i would totally buy you a beer if you did.

(or became a subversive, operating from within.)

perhaps you miss understand, maybe he is being subversive already, trying to convince the KBers not to annoy the poor busy ministers with letters. After all if ministers get letters they are likely to think that if people can be bothered to take on the task of writing to the minister then it might be important and worth some votes.

**Berries** · 27th November 2012, 19:46

I can't believe that people think that a) the minister is going to read their letter or b) that if you get a reply 'from the minister' he had any kind of hand in writing it or even seeing the correspondence.

**Swoop** · 28th November 2012, 07:13

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Have had replies from Ministers which showed their lack of understanding ...
Basically, Ministers have so many bloody things to worry about they can't actually be proficient in any of them.

I cannot understand why we allow a minister to hold more than one portfolio. We have sufficient morons in parliament to let them have one portfolio each and to devote their attention to that responsibility.

**Usarka** · 28th November 2012, 07:31

Originally Posted by Swoop

I cannot understand why we allow a minister to hold more than one portfolio. We have sufficient morons in parliament to let them have one portfolio each and to devote their attention to that responsibility.

There's lots of portfolios - 58 approx. http://www.dpmc.govt.nz/cabinet/mini...nisterial-list