The firearm thread

**nseagoon** · 4th November 2012, 14:02

does anyone remember the thread for a #1 Mk3 enfield? I'm building a De Lisle and have a barrel blank to work on.

**Paul in NZ** · 22nd November 2012, 09:12

Looks like fun...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/pi...?frame=2403831

**Edbear** · 22nd November 2012, 10:00

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Looks like fun...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/pi...?frame=2403831

"Come and fire a live machine gun!" Better than firing a dead one..?

**Swoop** · 22nd November 2012, 11:06

They use small helicopters to clear downrange, prior to the shoot commencing. A massive area to sanitize and make sure it is clear prior to the command to "LOAD!".

**scumdog** · 22nd November 2012, 21:15

Originally Posted by Edbear

"Come and fire a live machine gun!" Better than firing a dead one..?

A ton of fun - and if you could bring your own ammo it would be even better!( The bastards charge like a wounded bulll, sheesh, ya would think the bullets were made of gold!)

**Swoop** · 3rd December 2012, 16:19

Well the Gun City "sale" was a bit of a non-event.

Looking at a new rimfire rifle and noticed the "discount" price and thought "maybe".

Luckily I went to Reloaders beforehand to check their price. Normal retail was still over $100- cheaper than the "SPECIAL" Goon Shitty price.

I know Christchurch needs rebuilding, but via gun sale profits?

Oddly, Serious Rooters is even the same cheap deal.

**puddytat** · 3rd December 2012, 16:36

The local policeman here was a tad unimpressed with gun shitty.....supposedly they've been a tad tardy on the correct forms from the Fuzz for online sales....& have lost a couple of dealer licenses therefor. Down to one he reckoned.
All hearsay of course.

**jono035** · 3rd December 2012, 17:35

Urgh, yeah, I've never been able to justify anything fancier than a 10/22 mag from there.

I've been eyeing up one of their cheap pump action 12 gauges for a while. Any suggestions in that regard? Looking for something cheap to blow up a dozen or so magpies around my parent's place...

**nseagoon** · 3rd December 2012, 18:10

yeah I check the gun city site occasionally and they actually ramped up the price on a bunch of items prior to the sale (e cat sks and mini 14's)

as for their shotguns, they are chinese copys of the remmington 870. I have one with a ghost ring sight.
they were $150 when they first came out. I'm shocked at the prices now!

but in saying that it's a good all rounder shotgun. I sighted some rifled slugs at 25m and the holes were all touching.
I use it with #4's on turkeys and #8's on quail. I've never had any problems with it and it field strips the same as a remmington, and if you are in to that sort of thing you can put the ATI stocks and accessories on it without any modification.
it shoots exactly where I aim it.
also the recoil is fine. I've mucked around on the farm shooting 1 handed, away from the shoulder etc with a variety of shots, buckshot etc and the recoil is manageable and less than an SLR.

the only downside is the metal quality. the receiver absorbs lots of oil but still gets rusty easily. it's always been in a dry environment but that hasn't stopped the rust.
the inside of the barrel doesn't rust though. I'm guessing that's because like all norincos it must be chrome lined.

in short, not much to look at but great shooting and reliability!

**jono035** · 3rd December 2012, 20:29

Originally Posted by nseagoon

yeah I check the gun city site occasionally and they actually ramped up the price on a bunch of items prior to the sale (e cat sks and mini 14's)

as for their shotguns, they are chinese copys of the remmington 870. I have one with a ghost ring sight.
they were $150 when they first came out. I'm shocked at the prices now!

but in saying that it's a good all rounder shotgun. I sighted some rifled slugs at 25m and the holes were all touching.
I use it with #4's on turkeys and #8's on quail. I've never had any problems with it and it field strips the same as a remmington, and if you are in to that sort of thing you can put the ATI stocks and accessories on it without any modification.
it shoots exactly where I aim it.
also the recoil is fine. I've mucked around on the farm shooting 1 handed, away from the shoulder etc with a variety of shots, buckshot etc and the recoil is manageable and less than an SLR.

the only downside is the metal quality. the receiver absorbs lots of oil but still gets rusty easily. it's always been in a dry environment but that hasn't stopped the rust.
the inside of the barrel doesn't rust though. I'm guessing that's because like all norincos it must be chrome lined.

in short, not much to look at but great shooting and reliability!

Good to know. Was a 50/50 between stalking Tardme and trying to find a decent 2nd hand one or just picking up a cheap new one and being done with it. Not so keen on the high maintenance aspect though, my shed seems to have moisture issues and everything not utterly soaked in oil just rusts.

**Swoop** · 4th December 2012, 07:00

GC also have their own "brand" of AR15's being made in china.

Personally I'm staying well clear of any of their own made-under-contract (to pirated plans, presumably) firearms.

Their ammo seems a little pricey as well...

**jono035** · 4th December 2012, 07:13

Originally Posted by Swoop

GC also have their own "brand" of AR15's being made in china.

Personally I'm staying well clear of any of their own made-under-contract (to pirated plans, presumably) firearms.

Their ammo seems a little pricey as well...

Well the AR-15s are a bit of a weird one given that the plans are effectively an open standard and there are so many different combinations and permutations of manufacturers and vendors.

I've seen a few people discussing how difficult it is to find any concrete information on just how much of a american made AR-15 is actually sourced from within america. The best appear to be major components are sourced locally and nobody knows about the smaller pieces while they might as well say assembled in america for the more egregious cases.

Personally I made sure that I got forged receiver pieces that were made in america, as well as an american made barrel and BCG and left it at that.

As for being made to pirated plans, there can be a lot of differences there as well. I'm not sure what the situation is with the GC 870 clones but I know with both my Taurus pistols they were made under license with one of them being in the same factory and using the same tooling as Beretta used to make their 92s. With a lot of electronics the clones and knockoffs start out being the best of the rejects pile or ghost shift productions and often turn into separate businesses all by themselves.

I'm not that sympathetic to anyone who outsources their manufacturing to be honest. There's obvious fire being played with there and when you're taking a calculated risk for a calculated reward, you can't get too upset when things don't turn out the way you'd like.

I'd definitely be pickup up ammo somewhere else, though.