Child abuse: when the FUCK are we going to actually take this seriously?

[mashman]

Correction. Everybody is affected by the decision of a DPB recipient to have more children. The country cannot afford to keep paying more to these career 'mothers'.
As in all things set up as a backstop, in this country at least, there are too many willing to use the system for their own personal benefit by making it a lifestyle choice.
Watch the bitches spit out another at 4 year intervals (to ensure they always have one under 5)

Another alternative to stopping career mums/parents, would be for NZ to have a free local economy ...

[Winston001]

The offender will probably turn out to have a personality disorder and be of low intellect. He'll know what he is doing is wrong but feels compelled to seek out children. Add in drugs/alcohol and the compulsion takes over when he sees an opportunity.

These awful indescribable crimes are not carried out by the average crim. There is likely to be a family or a few people who immediately suspect they know the offender. Still, Jules Mikus got away with the murder of Teresa Cormack for 15 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Cormack



Our hearts go out to this little girl and her family.

[Scuba_Steve]

Well looks like they've arrested the (alleged) child bashing pedophile rapist, now our legal system will do it's job

Stuff article

[thecharmed01]

Well looks like they've arrested the (alleged) child bashing pedophile rapist, now our legal system will do it's job

Stuff article

Except he's only 16....

That's heartbreaking. What kind of life has that child had, to do that to another child?
And what will they do with him now? He's too young for prison.......

[meteor]

Except he's only 16....

That's heartbreaking. What kind of life has that child had, to do that to another child?
And what will they do with him now? He's too young for prison.......

16 sounds young... a lot of 16 year olds are vicious uncaring psycopathic career criminals who don't give a shit about the consequences of their actions on the victims or the sanctions that get metered out when (if) they get caught. Regardless of how he got to where he is... he's a vicious little animal and capable of a lot more evil that will destroy good peoples lives... how should we as a society protect itself from him and those of his ilk... groups hugs and talking about feelings. I think not.

[thecharmed01]

16 sounds young... a lot of 16 year olds are vicious uncaring psycopathic career criminals who don't give a shit about the consequences of their actions on the victims or the sanctions that get metered out when (if) they get caught. Regardless of how he got to where he is... he's a vicious little animal and capable of a lot more evil that will destroy good peoples lives... how should we as a society protect itself from him and those of his ilk... groups hugs and talking about feelings. I think not.

I totally agree. I don't think he should ever see the light of day.

But it still makes me so sad, that we can allow our kids to grow up so damaged that they think their behaviour is okay.....

[Brett]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10852332

And still the cycle continues.

" Police believe the toddler's injuries were inflicted around November or December last year "by way of full immersion of his hands into boiling water".

Despite the boy's horrific injuries, no proper medical attention was provided until child protection agencies became involved by chance in August this year, it is alleged.

It was understood the toddler suffered severe burns and deformities, which even senior police and medical experts have found disturbing.

The burns extended to the boy's mid-wrists and he will need extensive skin-graft surgery for the wounds"

And she is trying to claim that the boy immersed his own hands up to the forearm by accident, and has no excuse for why she never sought medical care for him. I think that a fair punishment for child abusers is to have what they did to the child done to them and then a minimum 5 year jail term. Oh...and the government needs to stop subsidising breeding. Basic economics, subsidise something and you'll get more of it. Hence breeding for money with no love for the kids. Fuck, I am sick of this and sick of feeling helpless to help the helpless.

[imdying]

Just the thought of it actually turns my stomach. I think I'd be best to avoid this thread, these are just not concepts I can digest. I can see no reason why she shouldn't be put on a train to a camp. Probably because we sold our rail network

[mashman]

Just the thought of it actually turns my stomach. I think I'd be best to avoid this thread, these are just not concepts I can digest. I can see no reason why she shouldn't be put on a train to a camp. Probably because we sold our rail network

If they can prove it beyond a doubt I'd save the fare and just shoot her. And just for the nazis out there, yes I will happily pull that trigger and sleep well that night. If you can't look after them, hand them over to someone who will.

[Banditbandit]

Just the thought of it actually turns my stomach.

Yes ... exactly - mine too. The problem is that means that we can never undertand the minds of these people (and never want to) which makes it hard to come up wth any answer to the problem, find any way to stop this happening, other than Mashman's solution - which I agree with - shoot the fuckers ..

[caseye]

The totally true and screamingly obvious thing is this.
THERE ARE MUMS AND DADS OUT THERE WHO WOULD LOVE TO ADOPT A CHILD, Any child.
Our stupid system allows that children should remain with the families that have abused them for as long as possible, just in case they are being seen as uncaring and or worse culturally insensitive.
No racial barriers or prejudices should exist here.
If a child is in danger, get that child out of there and into a home where they will be loved and cherished forever more.
No more molly coddling, out and away, never to be seen again, only way an adopted child ever sees it's biological parent/s is if, they! want to.
Simple really.
Why the fuck aren't we doing it?
Tell ya why aye.
It'd stop buying the votes of those neanderthals who are breeding just to get money! Go on tell me they're not, I double damn well dare ya.

[imdying]

Maybe that's a hole in societies way of treating parenting... taking them away is considered bad etc etc.

If you've put yourself in a position where you have kids you don't want, maybe there should be an mechanism by where you can absolve yourself of them. That might just be might white middle class ignorance coming into play though... I can't fathom another reason why you'd physically attack your child in this manner... it's so much more than a clip round the ear that it can't be in the name of discipline.

[imdying]

It'd stop buying the votes of those neanderthals who are breeding just to get money! Go on tell me they're not, I double damn well dare ya.

I know it happens... young mums have admitted as much on the tele. The question is, how big is that problem really?

[caseye]

It's BIG and govt won't tell you the figures cause they'd be so damned embarrassed.
NZ has spawned ( cuse da pun) a lifestyle which doesn't just support a girl and her first born, it also supports her, her first born , her second third or fourth born and any and all fella's who prey on her vulnerability.
Lets not get away from the answer which we'd all like to see found.
There are married couples without children who will adopt, there are married couple with a child or two who'd like more and WILL adopt, there are married couples out there who would adopt a mite to expressly see it freed from a life of abject misery and suffering, this is where the neanderthals come in.
Remove their unloved, unwanted, money making children, sterilise them, YES both of them, or as is more usually the case, ALL OF THEM. 1 mum, 2 often 3 or more fathers.
Here in NZ you could place every single child who for whatever reason needed a loving caring family and still have more looking to adopt than there would be available children.

[Banditbandit]

I know it happens... young mums have admitted as much on the tele. The question is, how big is that problem really?

Yes - it does exist - a few women do get pregenant because it earns them more money. I don't believe it is as big a problem as some people think ... it's a small minority of solo parents. The rest are just clueless and get pregnant because they do not know how to use birth control ... or don't care ...