Nats round 1

**SWERVE** · 21st December 2012, 05:28

Billy. Please donrt think i am knocking what has been happening or what is in the pipeline. 99% of the people involved with the running of the sport and its organistaion are doing a great job and are top people. And yes i agree with you that in this tech age TV is not neccessarily the "golden goose" where as the internet has a far reaching base and is far more adaptable to suit the viewing needs of the masses.
And yes suzuki 21 a promotor can ruin things also. Whilst they need to make money... they also need to be passionate about the sport they promote......
Once again my personal view is that i would happily pay the fees that Aus /etc pay to have the same kind of deal........ but im afraid many many wouldnt.

**Billy** · 21st December 2012, 07:25

Originally Posted by SWERVE

Billy. Please donrt think i am knocking what has been happening or what is in the pipeline. 99% of the people involved with the running of the sport and its organistaion are doing a great job and are top people. And yes i agree with you that in this tech age TV is not neccessarily the "golden goose" where as the internet has a far reaching base and is far more adaptable to suit the viewing needs of the masses.
And yes suzuki 21 a promotor can ruin things also. Whilst they need to make money... they also need to be passionate about the sport they promote......
Once again my personal view is that i would happily pay the fees that Aus /etc pay to have the same kind of deal........ but im afraid many many wouldnt.

Yea but,

You missed the important bit in Steve's post....The world is ending today,Thank fuck for that,I can finally get some sleep LOL!

**codgyoleracer** · 21st December 2012, 07:26

Originally Posted by Billy

Actually Merv,

Paul Stewart had the guy who promotes the V8 tourers look at it and while he agreed the product was good,The problem is there was no way he could do the job properly with the money available and make a living,As an example,The teams running in that series are required to pay an upfront series fee(Around $20k I am lead to believe) around $1k per event as an entry fee and are required to run specific parts and tyres from designated suppliers,How many peeps are still keen to go down that track?????

We have a plan and have started on the first step this year and hope in the long run(Approx 5 years) We can raise the profile of the sport significantly both locally and on the international stage with the use and promotion of Grant Collingwoods Ctas system and Nzsbk Motorsport,Hopefully this,Linked with personnel who's sole job is to generate sponsorship solely for the NZSBK series will put us on the right path,

Its worth mentioning at this point,That the television everybody see's as the silver bullet,Has been dragging us down financially and simply isn't working,Add to that this year,TV1 didnt want to air it for free(And air it is all they do,Production costs are met by MNZ),After some very hard work from Paul Stewart,It will air on TV 3.

As an aside Gamma guy,Yip racing in the eightiies was good,Too bad you missed the 70s,Factory machinery,Factory riders,Huge feilds and excitement happening every where,Even when the Supers came here in the late 80s,The atmosphere just wasn't the same as the golden years of the Marlboro series,Sorry you missed,I didnt.

Where that might ultimaltey end up Billy is a compaction of classes at national level, combined with a large step up in entry fees that matches the current environment with respect to acceptance by competitors of the true cost it takes to run and promote an events of national stature ?

**Billy** · 21st December 2012, 07:39

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

Where that might ultimaltey end up Billy is a compaction of classes at national level, combined with a large step up in entry fees that matches the current environment with respect to acceptance by competitors of the true cost it takes to run and promote an events of national stature ?

Yea...Umm,

This is kiwibiker,If you want to talk sensibly,You need to ring me,Don't want to confuse those who usually post on here with commonsense and rationale.

**jellywrestler** · 22nd December 2012, 20:00

Originally Posted by gammaguy

The talent and hard work has never been in question

Now it needs a PROFESSIONAL promoter to convince the public,sponsors and even date I say TV that it is really worth investing time and money in.

I was involved in road racing from the early eighties and can remember when it really was something special.

If anyone who loves the sport as much as I do wants to see anything like that again,a lot of hard work is needed and it starts from the ground up.

If everyone is happy with a club day atmosphere,then as you were........I suspect not as that won't pay the bills for ever will it

the 2012 Motorcycling canterbury NZGP at Ruapuna drew a bigger crowd that the V8's did a few weeks earlier, without th V8's budget. it was due to hard work by the promotors...

**Dave-** · 23rd December 2012, 14:04

Originally Posted by Billy

Its worth mentioning at this point,That the television everybody see's as the silver bullet,Has been dragging us down financially and simply isn't working,Add to that this year,TV1 didnt want to air it for free(And air it is all they do,Production costs are met by MNZ),After some very hard work from Paul Stewart,It will air on TV 3.
.

That ctas system is really tops, and it's getting better and better every year!

**Biggles08** · 23rd December 2012, 17:45

Maybe its because I'm not doing it this year, but I have noticed on Facebook a lot more people dressing up their bikes/trailers etc this year than ever before. Its noticeable as I'm getting envious I'm not going. I think there is a movement starting to happen where racers and teams are starting to realize you don't actually have to be part of a massive team to make your pit area look professional. I say good on you all and keep it up...to gain sponsors we have to look professional and act professional to be noticed.

**Billy** · 23rd December 2012, 18:30

Originally Posted by Biggles08

Maybe its because I'm not doing it this year, but I have noticed on Facebook a lot more people dressing up their bikes/trailers etc this year than ever before. Its noticeable as I'm getting envious I'm not going. I think there is a movement starting to happen where racers and teams are starting to realize you don't actually have to be part of a massive team to make your pit area look professional. I say good on you all and keep it up...to gain sponsors we have to look professional and act professional to be noticed.

Not often we agree(Haha),But your on the money with that comment

**RobGassit** · 1st January 2013, 09:23

Good luck and best wishes to all the riders competing in the Nationals this year. I hope you all stay safe and have a fabulous time.

**Oakie** · 1st January 2013, 16:24

Hmm. So it's on this weekend huh? If it wasn't for Mrs Oakie asking this afternoon when the bike racing is on I'd have missed it. I've seen not a jot of advertising this time around. (Then again I've not read a newspaper for ages if that's where it's going?)

**SVboy** · 1st January 2013, 19:05

On the other hand I have seen plenty of clear roadside billboards, posters in shops and TV ads. Well done so far organisers.

**Oakie** · 1st January 2013, 19:20

Originally Posted by SVboy

On the other hand I have seen plenty of clear roadside billboards, posters in shops and TV ads. Well done so far organisers.

Ah well, as long as they're out there it's all good. I remember last year's TV advertising and a billboard just down the road from us. Hope it's as good as last year's event which I think was the best I've been too.

**SWERVE** · 1st January 2013, 19:30

Apart from the above mentioned outlets for advertising it has been on the back of busses and on radio for weeks.
This year will be better........... the fields are big and the competition is intense

**The Chow** · 2nd January 2013, 07:19

Originally Posted by SWERVE

Apart from the above mentioned outlets for advertising it has been on the back of busses and on radio for weeks.
This year will be better........... the fields are big and the competition is intense

Hey Merv don't forget the Internet since July this year. On Eventfinder and our own site and Google search . On facebook for months , on Twitter for months. JUST SAYING :-) Its going to be good , remember if you can't be there follow on the Internet. Live Video , commentary and Timing and live up dates on Facebook , Twitter and live blog on nzsuperbike.com website.

**jellywrestler** · 2nd January 2013, 07:37

Originally Posted by The Chow

Hey Merv don't forget the Internet since July this year. On Eventfinder and our own site and Google search . On facebook for months , on Twitter for months. JUST SAYING :-) Its going to be good , remember if you can't be there follow on the Internet. Live Video , commentary and Timing and live up dates on Facebook , Twitter and live blog on nzsuperbike.com website.

I told my mother last month and she's got a mouth busier than mine too so i'm a bit flummoxed how you don't know about it, and there's sidecars...