Hi-viz, does it make a difference in rider visibility?

[Kittyhawk]

Won't catch on .... maybe ...

• 
  
  

Yeah well it's probably your natural winter closet range....so just the norm for you huh?

[FJRider]

• 
  
  

Yeah well it's probably your natural winter closet range....so just the norm for you huh?

Come and look in my closet ... the only thing in there that's fluffy ... is the dust

[Kittyhawk]

Come and look in my closet ... the only thing in there that's fluffy ... is the dust

No! can't have you jumping out naked and fluffy.....scare me a mile off

[FJRider]

No! can't have you jumping out naked and fluffy.....scare me a mile off

I don't "jump out" anywhere ... more a sedate step ...

This is hardly the place to discuss my fluffy bits ...

[Jantar]

I don't "jump out" anywhere ... more a sedate step ...

This is hardly the place to discuss my fluffy bits ...

Certainly not. No one wants to discuss your fluffy bits when we can dicuss Kitty's fluffy bits.

[TygerTung]

I don't wear high biz because it's too gay.

I don't wear it on my bicycle because it gives people the impression that cycling is a risky activity when in fact it is safer than driving.
When people think it is dangerous they don't do it.

I do wear it on the pushbike during the winter when viability is poor however, but not during the summer.

[nerrrd]

I do wear it on the pushbike during the winter when viability is poor however, but not during the summer.

So visibility is never poor in the summer? What if it's raining...or dark? (You know, just like in winter.)

Hivis won't make any difference in the dark, reflectivity might. Wear what you like, I just think your logic is slightly flawed.

[Zapf]

If the car drivers are not looking then Hi-vis is no-vis.

People say "I didn't see you" that is because they did not look. PERIOD!

[Zapf]

So visibility is never poor in the summer? What if it's raining...or dark? (You know, just like in winter.)

You have a bike with a 55W headlight and RED tail light. Maybe we can dress up like Christmas trees?




or are you planning on walking.

[nerrrd]

or are you planning on walking.

Nope, I'll just gayly ride on year-round in my all-season reflective hivis...

The rest of you carry on as normal.

[TygerTung]

Apparently the main thing to stop you getting hit is road positioning so that people can actually see you.

http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/want-...g-on-high-vis/

http://www.bikewise.com.au/2012/04/h...d-positioning/

There actually is a much higher risk of dying from an illness caused by lack of exercise than there is of dying from a cycle accident.


Once I was riding down Moorehouse ave in Christchurch past the old railway station on my scooter in the evening. There was me and another car on the road. I was in the centre lane and there was a women driving a car in the right hand lane. She came up from behind in her lane and then cut in front of me. I had to jam on the brakes in order not to hit her. I realised then that high viz vests are a waste of time because if she didn't see me then, there is no way she is ever going to see me. I was wearing a high viz vest and it made no difference.

[TygerTung]

So visibility is never poor in the summer? What if it's raining...or dark? (You know, just like in winter.)

Hivis won't make any difference in the dark, reflectivity might. Wear what you like, I just think your logic is slightly flawed.

It's not dark when I commute in the morning in the summer and it rarely rains. When I am riding at night the traffic is very light and I have lights in any case which are much more visable than a high viz vest.

The problem with vests is that it makes people think it is dangerous to cycle, so they don't do it which means more people on the roads and more people getting ill due to non activity, such as diabetes, heart disease, obesity etc. I'm just saying.

[davereid]

It's not dark when I commute in the morning in the summer and it rarely rains. When I am riding at night the traffic is very light and I have lights in any case which are much more visable than a high viz vest.The problem with vests is that it makes people think it is dangerous to cycle, so they don't do it which means more people on the roads and more people getting ill due to non activity, such as diabetes, heart disease, obesity etc. I'm just saying.

Yep, the NZ Medical Association has called the compulsory cycle helmet law the biggest failure in the history of public health initiatives.

It was unable to prove that cycle helmets had had any effect on head injury rates (actually the evidence suggests a small increase). But it credited the law with a massive reduction in the number of cyclists, and as a result 53 premature deaths a year.

[nerrrd]

The problem with vests is that it makes people think it is dangerous to cycle, so they don't do it which means more people on the roads and more people getting ill due to non activity, such as diabetes, heart disease, obesity etc. I'm just saying.

Agreed, cycling is good, and I'm happy to wear a vest doing that too. And if I fall off or get hit, I'd rather be wearing a helmet than not. Doing both makes sense to me, and I don't really care all that much what other people do in this regard - it's up to them.

Statistically it may well be a waste of time. Anecdotally people wearing hivis stand out to my eyes. So I wear it and look gay.

If my wearing hivis somehow forces everyone else into having to wear it, I hereby apologise in advance, 'twas ne'er my intention.

[Zapf]

Look what the French thinks.... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ing-into-force!

French Hi-Viz law kicked out, the day after coming into force!
The controversial law requiring motorcyclists in France to wear a fluorescent strip has been scrapped… one day after coming into force!

Following a year of protests, the decree (any rider on a machine of more than 125cc had to have a strip of 15cm3) was rescinded. Protestors comments that adding a 15cm3 strip will not give any further visability to a machine with headlights on appears to have been accepted.



Can you imagen a street full of people in Hi Vis? now the cagers can say "sorry I got dazzled"