Points scale

[jellywrestler]

Some Sidecar stuff years ago the pole sitter got the front row dead centre all to himself

never heard of that in this country

[Kickaha]

never heard of that in this country

Didn't say it was, pretty sure it was World champs, most likely in the nineties, I've seen the video

[slowpoke]

I like the AMA system, qualify first and get a point, set the fastest lap in a race and get a point.

The NZ grids however are set too short to give a meaningfull advantage, should be a full bike length.

Increase numbers by dropping one practise and having three 10 or 12 lap races in Superbike and 600's, there are a few more locally that would jump in and fill up the grid if they thought they had a shot at avoiding being lapped, and it gives the guys a wider spread of point scoring oportunity to help take luck out of the equasion

I like the sound of both of these. The cost saving argument of running two races doesn't really stand up, we're just used to spooning on a new set of soft tyres for each race. Limit the tyres to 2 sets to last 3 x 10lap races and the cost is the same, cheaper even without the extra practice session. The tyre manufacturers make hard tyres too. It'd be a pain in the arse carrying the appropriate tyres and the tyre-chess going on the pits would be a mind bender, but Joe Public would have more reason to come through the gate on Saturday if the fast guys were racing like everyone else.

[jasonu]

Last race of the series, both top points scorers are tied for the series win with no other racers even close to being in the hunt, both are battling hell for leather and both outbrake each other and run off track, last lap and they are running in 15th and 16th positions, they cross the line still in the same positions..................................who should win the series?

It (should) go back to the most wins over the series, if that is a tie then 2nd placings etc.

[Skunk]

Points Scale :1st 25 2nd 20 3rd 16 4th 13 5th 11 6th 10 7th 9 8th 8 9th 7 10th 6
11th 5 12th 4 13th 3 14th 2 15th 1


The points scale is listed above, what's the general consensus out there on the scores, happy with the way it is or got other ideas?

Where did that points scale come from? MNZ 6.15.1 has 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 as The scale. I know Moto4 is different.

[Kickaha]

I know Moto4 is different.

Moto4? you must mean Buckets

[roogazza]

Moto4? you must mean Buckets

LOL and don't forget Moto 5.....the lunch break.

[Mental Trousers]

LOL and don't forget Moto 5.....the lunch break.

I thought Moto5 was this

[Skunk]

Moto4? you must mean Buckets

You can have your Buckets. We have quality in the North Island.

[Kickaha]

You can have your Buckets. We have quality in the North Island.

You mean after playing years of catch up you think you're ahead?

They'll always be Buckets but if it makes you feel better and you're to ashamed to be known as a Bucket racer you call them anything you want

[Skunk]

You mean after playing years of catch up you think you're ahead?

They'll always be Buckets but if it makes you feel better and you're to ashamed to be known as a Bucket racer you call them anything you want

No shame from me. It's about the attitude of other people to encourage them to have a go. And the fact that most of the bikes are far removed from being 'buckets of shit' these days. You can hardly call what Sketchy is doing a bucket of shit can you? Team GPR and ESE are the same.

Anyway. Does anyone know where the points scale Jellywrestler quoted comes from?

[neil_cb125t]

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Anyway. Does anyone know where the points scale Jellywrestler quoted comes from?

I have never seen it used, I like it more than the 25 for a win 22 for second. Why does winning a race only give you 1 extra point compared coming one place ahead of 3rd.

[Mental Trousers]

As used by MotoGP/Moto2/Moto3/WSBK/WSS/etc ....

http://www.motogp.com/en/MotoGP+Basics/points

[RDjase]

No shame from me. It's about the attitude of other people to encourage them to have a go. And the fact that most of the bikes are far removed from being 'buckets of shit' these days. You can hardly call what Sketchy is doing a bucket of shit can you? Team GPR and ESE are the same.

Anyway. Does anyone know where the points scale Jellywrestler quoted comes from?

http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/rules/201...g.pdf?sfvrsn=2


22.8.8 Points are awarded for 1st to 15th placings as follows:25, 20, 16, 13, 11, 10, 9,
8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Much better than using the MX points system

[steveyb]

As Jase points out, the 25, 22 etc system is that commonly used for MX racing.
Road racing has always traditionally used the 25, 20, 16 etc system and this is given in the MNZ MOMS.
The reason that VMCC use the 25, 22 etc system is simply because the timing system providers insisted on using it and would broach no argument to the contrary, no matter that the customer wanted something else.
They had started using it at their series and carried that insistance over.
In the end VMCC were more or less forced to accept it and has been that way ever since.
Don't get me wrong, I am certainly not criticising either system, they both have merits.
One rewards consistency, one rewards merit. Both have merit as consistency is in itself worthy of merit.
But this topic was done to death on KB a couple of years back.
There are any number of points schemes. What about the one that V8 Supercars use for example? Not sure I understand it, but you get 100's (1000's??) of points a season, etc etc etc.
I argued for a change on the basis that our current product is old, traditional and staid. Purists will argue that the racing is as good as ever. All well and good. But at the moment there is little real depth at the elite level in NZ road racing. Changing the points system will not change that, but as part of some form of revamp to try and attract more of the Crusty Demons and Extreme sports teenagers (who are afterall the target demographic if we want to grow the sport and for it to acutally continue) into the sport it might help.
As you were......
I'll duck now.