Next gen gaming consoles

[Headbanger]

I'm on my third xbox 360, and I have a half dozen other systems locked away in storage. Including an n64....

Anyway

I consider that its the perfect platform for some games, Burnout Paradise, Fight Night Champion for example, and my sons have a shitload of spiderman and lego games. I played the shit out of Forza 3, fuel and Pure, throw in a couple nfs games, Star wars unleashed, MX vs ATV....

damn, we have piles of games, And I paid for em all.


Good thing I threw out that pile of plastic guitars, drum kit and microphone....That shit will fuck you up.

[imdying]

Consoles definitely have the party (3-4 player) gaming sewn up... definitely one good use for a console controller!

[Headbanger]

This is an old pic of my projector setup, The wheel was mounted on an extending arm designed to hold a crt monitor, I had it bolted to a coffee table. Simply sit down in the lazyboy and then drag the wheel to any place and height that suits.

Now Im in a rental I don't have a permanent setup, in fact the powered projector screen I bought off ebay turned out to be so big I had to disasemble it,throw away the motorised component and cut the fabric down in size. Next purchase is a Full HD 3d projector and a video card to match.

[Headbanger]

fuck, I can see the arse end of my speed triple in that pic.

[Scuba_Steve]

If you accept that console gaming has basically dumbed down gaming, and stripped it of depth and quality, then I have bad news for you... it's going to get worse before it gets better, assuming it even does. Even once the devs get their filthy mitts on the next generation hardware, there's a gap of a few years whilst they work out the best way to eek maximum performance out of them... not only that, but you have a market that will quite happily buy simplified games such as Black Ops etc. To a PC gamer, such games are repugnant as they have been exposed to what can really be done when you're not tied to the generic controller medium and lack of RAM, but that's where the money is.

Battlefield is a good example of how badly console gaming can hurt PC gaming... BF3 is utter tosh when compared to something like even Desert Combat, which should be so inferior in every regard as not to be funny. Really, to call BF3 a 'Battlefield' game is almost insulting to the original developers at DICE... it's now just scripted rubbish console fodder and nothing else.

But consoles haven't "dumbed down" gaming at all, the publishers are the ones "dumbing down" gaming. We've got to a point where publishers think all games can be for everyone (all in the name of $$$ of-course) so all games must be made "accessible" to all. This is a result of "casual gamers" NOT console gamers, casual gamers are fast becoming the largest gaming community & publishers want to cash in as much as possible even if that means "selling out" & unfortunitly Devs don't get a choice.

Think you should check up on your BF3 talk, BF3 was built from ground for PC & ported to console

“Most games are actually still based on the same core idea that the consoles are your focus, the superior platform or something,” he said. “I don’t know why. That was the truth five years ago, but the world has moved on. PCs are way more powerful than the consoles today and there are actually almost zero games out there that actually use the benefits of this.

“So for our target of what we want to hit, we are now using the more powerful platform to try and prove what we see gaming being in the future rather than using the lowest common denominator, instead of developing it for the consoles and then just adding higher resolution textures and anti-aliasing for the PC version. We’re doing it the other way around, we start with the highest-end technology that we can come up with and then scale it back to the consoles.”

[bogan]

meh, 18 days and we will see what PC gfx are capable of; and we will probably see what our PC gfx are not capable of too



Point being, games that really pushed the mainstream to upper teir GFX range used to be the rule, now they are the exception.

[Headbanger]

Crysis 3 I assume?

I haven't got to Farcry 3 yet.


For some reason after running out of things to do I went back and started Skyrim from the beginning again....

[bogan]

Crysis 3 I assume?

I haven't got to Farcry 3 yet.


For some reason after running out of things to do I went back and started Skyrim from the beginning again....

haha, yeh that'll happen. Yes Crysis 3, hope its not the disappointment C2 was; though that's only due to comparing it to the original. FC3 has a fucked up storyline, but solid gameplay and graphics.

Does it show anything about the Console demographic, that we have talked more about PC games (despite having a thread for that already) than console ones?

[imdying]

But consoles haven't "dumbed down" gaming at all, the publishers are the ones "dumbing down" gaming. We've got to a point where publishers think all games can be for everyone (all in the name of $$$ of-course) so all games must be made "accessible" to all. This is a result of "casual gamers" NOT console gamers, casual gamers are fast becoming the largest gaming community & publishers want to cash in as much as possible even if that means "selling out" & unfortunitly Devs don't get a choice.

Yep, follow the money... Of course, the rise of the casual gamer is a direct result of the availability of consoles, and now mobile phones.

Think you should check up on your BF3 talk, BF3 was built from ground for PC & ported to console

It was built on the PC with consoles in mind and then ported. That's the key... and I don't blame them... follow the money is just good business.

meh, 18 days and we will see what PC gfx are capable of; and we will probably see what our PC gfx are not capable of too

Minor problem, more power is only a quick trip to the shops away

Crysis 3 I assume?

I haven't got to Farcry 3 yet.

At this point, don't bother, just wait the three weeks.

[bogan]

Minor problem, more power is only a quick trip to the shops away

yeh but the GFX card I have now cost as much as the new PS4 is likely too (see, we're still on topic ), so I can't afford another one quite yet (though C3 is developed with SLI optimization). Especially since it offers no benefit to the main game I play, planetside 2 (does not even have multiple CPU thread optimization). Though it is on the buy list for work, as being able to develop dual GPU programs would be handy.

[imdying]

Sucks to be poor!

To be honest, I'll just cope with whatever performance I get, I don't really care about gaming that much... maybe in the winter

[Scuba_Steve]

Yep, follow the money... Of course, the rise of the casual gamer is a direct result of the availability of consoles, and now mobile phones.
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PC's are further up the casual gamer ladder than consoles, thanks to facebook games, farmville, crime scene investigator, mafia wars, bejewled & the likes. But mobile gaming is leading the casual gamer charge.

[bogan]

Sucks to be poor!

To be honest, I'll just cope with whatever performance I get, I don't really care about gaming that much... maybe in the winter

Meh, I'm a glass (and in this case PCIE3 slots) half full guy, if I have one $900 card, it doesn't suck that much

I'll do the same I think, turn the settings right up and go oooohhhh pretty, then turn them down until I get a playable frame rate.

[Scuba_Steve]

latest rumors for the next xbox aint good...

the next Xbox will have an improved Kinect and an always-on internet connection to cut out the second-hand game market from the platform.

PC gamers for years have hated this kinda DRM douchebagary & MS is [supposedly] wanting to bring it to their console for all games. I can tell u which next gen console I won't even take a second glance at if they do.

[Headbanger]

I'm quite happy not to buy a "next generation" console, If anything I consider the so called extended cycle of the current crop has been good for the consumer, and the crap about requiring an always on connection (my xbox only ever goes online to purchase Trials games and DLC) is enough for me not to bother.

However, this seems to be the minority view, With PC games their is generally an outcry when invasive DRM is used and then instead of a backlash in sales..well Diablo 3 has sold 8 million.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/23/di...-in-first-day/


i was looking foward to the new Sim City untill DRM reared its ugly head.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/20/ma...ys-online-drm/

http://savegameonline.com/c3-feature...s-hurt-simcity

I won't buy it, it will sell millions, and the same shit will be integrated into further titles.

My other concern regarding consoles is the rumors of registering a game to a machine in order to kill off the second hand game market.