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    Good way to tell if your condenser is fucked is to look at the points, if they have a big burny looking hole in them, the condenser is most likely fucked. Oh wait...................
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    What Unstuck said.
    Unless you have a capacitor test function on that real expensive multimeter you ought to own with an old bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Good way to tell if your condenser is fucked is to look at the points, if they have a big burny looking hole in them, the condenser is most likely fucked. Oh wait...................
    Heh fair point Yea i checked the points again after the 5 min ride and they starting to burn again.
    Just need that drill now to get the cover bolts out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    What Unstuck said.
    Unless you have a capacitor test function on that real expensive multimeter you ought to own with an old bike

    Yea sure, i got that i don't even have my own multimeter.
    Bike was relatively cheap so i'm trying not to buy specialty tools that will not get used much after the first use.

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    Photos of the dynamo area attached. I have removed the screws holding the points base plate in, before anyone points that out.

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    Why do you need to get the cover bolts out again? Have you not got a right angled screwdriver, they are not expensive at all, give one of them a go first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Why do you need to get the cover bolts out again? Have you not got a right angled screwdriver, they are not expensive at all, give one of them a go first.
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    Condenser won't come out unless the cover is off No i hadn't even heard of those...
    I have a feeling since the force you apply is offset, there is a higher chance of the screwdriver head slipping in the bolt?
    But yea, probably worth a shot before i drill out all the bolts!
    Find them anywhere can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinny View Post
    Condenser won't come out unless the cover is off No i hadn't even heard of those...
    I have a feeling since the force you apply is offset, there is a higher chance of the screwdriver head slipping in the bolt?
    But yea, probably worth a shot before i drill out all the bolts!
    Find them anywhere can you?
    They DO work. An impact driver for easier access screws that don't want to move.

    Hardware/tool shops. Or engineering supply shops. Supercheap should have them. Replace the screws with allen head screws. Much easier next time they have to come out.
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    I was thinking you could use the right angled screwdriver to remove the condenser retaining screw, rather than the cover screws. Can you not use some needle nose vice grips to remove the cover screws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    They DO work. An impact driver for easier access screws that don't want to move.

    Hardware/tool shops. Or engineering supply shops. Supercheap should have them. Replace the screws with allen head screws. Much easier next time they have to come out.
    Will take a look at supercheap, didn't think i saw any at the hardware store..
    Yup, will go allen/hex head bolts next time.
    Don't have an impact driver..will see if friends have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    I was thinking you could use the right angled screwdriver to remove the condenser retaining screw, rather than the cover screws. Can you not use some needle nose vice grips to remove the cover screws?
    Hmm i dont think there's enough clearance to get the right angle s'driver in..the head of the condenser screw is facing the cover.
    I think the bolt heads sit in recesses in the cover, so i don't imagine i'd get the vice needles around the head.

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    Have you tried gently tapping on a slightly smaller socket, preferably an old one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Have you tried gently tapping on a slightly smaller socket, preferably an old one?
    Don't get it sorry. bolt head - smaller socket - hammer?

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    I presume the bolt heads need an 8mm socket to fit them, sometimes a 7mm socket will go on with a wee bit of tapping from a hammer. Not hard blows because you do not want to ruin the thread, you may have to drive the bolt out of the socket with a punch or something once it is out. I presume you have been giving the bolts a wee bit of crc or similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    I presume the bolt heads need an 8mm socket to fit them, sometimes a 7mm socket will go on with a wee bit of tapping from a hammer. Not hard blows because you do not want to ruin the thread, you may have to drive the bolt out of the socket with a punch or something once it is out. I presume you have been giving the bolts a wee bit of crc or similar.
    Ok gotcha - get the socket stuck to the bolt head and use the rachet to get it out. Worth a try. Thanks.
    Yea been using CRC but that's not going to get all the way through..just around the head.

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