UK - Slave work schemes

[Ocean1]

There is plenty of work needing to be done, but if you're not going to pay them a decent rate, I see no reason why they should work.

They should work for whatever they can get for the simple reason that the natural alternative is that they don't eat.

Granted; some of 'em could manage that for quite some time. And THEN gat of their fat lazy arses and earn their own keep.

[mashman]

They should work for whatever they can get for the simple reason that the natural alternative is that they don't eat.

Granted; some of 'em could manage that for quite some time. And THEN gat of their fat lazy arses and earn their own keep.

But isn't the natural alternative survival?

on the plus side there would be more KFC for me... then again without the clientele they may shut the local one down and I'd end up going without. I'm sure there's an analogy in there

[Ocean1]

But isn't the natural alternative survival?

How do you work that out? The natural consequense of failing to provide for yourself isn't survival, is it? It's fucking dead, innit?

[mashman]

How do you work that out? The natural consequense of failing to provide for yourself isn't survival, is it? It's fucking dead, innit?

Only if you're willing to curl up and die. Ain't many that will do that with shut rich weak pickings at every turn.

[Ocean1]

Only if you're willing to curl up and die. Ain't many that will do that with shut rich weak pickings at every turn.

Meh, we've done all this shit before, if you think people will pay the dole as some sort of protection scheme think again. If the fuckers won't work but they're prepared to take someone else's stuff then they're due a wee remedial lesson in effort vs return behaviour, and one final pointer in optimumum survival tactics. A fatal one.

Keep the available funds for the worthy cases, and you can't do that if it's being siphoned off by fucking dole bludgers.

[Brian d marge]

If you remove my means of a reasonable life , I will steal your tv

it isnt rocket science

Stephen

[Ocean1]

If you remove my means of a reasonable life , I will steal your tv

it isnt rocket science

Stephen

This presupposes that you're better prepared to do so than I am to prevent you.

Stick to rockets, Stephen, much safer and a fucking sight less work.

[mashman]

Meh, we've done all this shit before, if you think people will pay the dole as some sort of protection scheme think again. If the fuckers won't work but they're prepared to take someone else's stuff then they're due a wee remedial lesson in effort vs return behaviour, and one final pointer in optimumum survival tactics. A fatal one.

Keep the available funds for the worthy cases, and you can't do that if it's being siphoned off by fucking dole bludgers.

We have indeed... and it's all fine and well you believing that you'd not fall foul of the rabble that decided to borrow the TV. How many other productive members of society would? No man is an island.

Beautiful sentiment that I may well once upon a time have agreed with. But it's fuckin impossible to decipher which is which. As the fulla on the telly said, kill the rich then there's no one to owe money to and more money ends up in the economy... because the money that you say they have "earned" is keeping very hard working Kiwi's on the poverty line. And no, I don't accept that that is the way it should be for a moment, I don't accept that that is the only way it can be for a moment, especially where the morals (tui) of the money worshipers are akin to those of psychopaths.

[Brian d marge]

This presupposes that you're better prepared to do so than I am to prevent you.

Stick to rockets, Stephen, much safer and a fucking sight less work.

You dont have a 50 inch plasma do you ......in which case your safe

Stephen

[Ocean1]

We have indeed... and it's all fine and well you believing that you'd not fall foul of the rabble that decided to borrow the TV. How many other productive members of society would? No man is an island.

Indeed, any help the productive members of society need to maintain their hard earned assets should be freely available from your suitably armed local policeman.

Beautiful sentiment that I may well once upon a time have agreed with. But it's fuckin impossible to decipher which is which.

Wrong. It's simply not politically expedient.

As the fulla on the telly said, kill the rich then there's no one to owe money to and more money ends up in the economy... because the money that you say they have "earned" is keeping very hard working Kiwi's on the poverty line. And no, I don't accept that that is the way it should be for a moment, I don't accept that that is the only way it can be for a moment, especially where the morals (tui) of the money worshipers are akin to those of psychopaths.

What fulla on TV? He must live in there, out here the only hard working Kiwis I've met anywhere near the a poverty line are professional charity workers. Whatever, I can tell you he's not only factually challenged but I've a sneeking suspicion you'll find he's firstly a failure and secondly one of the noisy minority that's happier blaming others for his failure.

You dont have a 50 inch plasma do you ......in which case your safe

Stephen

No, it's a 40" LCD. I hardly ever use it, it's there for the benefit of other people. Much like my 12swg.

[Banditbandit]

on the plus side there would be more KFC for me...

And you wonder why you don't sleep ??? All that shit floating around in your body ???

[Banditbandit]

Meh, we've done all this shit before, if you think people will pay the dole as some sort of protection scheme think again. If the fuckers won't work but they're prepared to take someone else's stuff then they're due a wee remedial lesson in effort vs return behaviour, and one final pointer in optimumum survival tactics. A fatal one.

That assumes that you are better than them and get them before they get you ... I would not put my money on you ...

This presupposes that you're better prepared to do so than I am to prevent you.

Stick to rockets, Stephen, much safer and a fucking sight less work.

Are you really prepared to kill ??? Do you really think so ???

[oneofsix]

That assumes that you are better than them and get them before they get you ... I would not put my money on you ...

And then there is the old numbers game, there are more of them than him, it is not even a risk more a case of him being certain to loose.

[GrayWolf]

That assumes that you are better than them and get them before they get you ... I would not put my money on you ...



Are you really prepared to kill ??? Do you really think so ???

And then there is the old numbers game, there are more of them than him, it is not even a risk more a case of him being certain to loose.

That's a 'mutual' question, is the person 'invading' the house to steal also prepared to kill? it's all very well to say you would, but if killing was THAT easy??? All it means is those who work and earn a living/reasonable wage, will, just like the USA, sleep with a pistol by the bed/under the pillow... So you the 'stealer' have to be prepared to risk dying to steal the 40 inch plasma, jewellery, etc..... Again, how many people are REALLY prepared to risk dying in that circumstance?

[oneofsix]

That's a 'mutual' question, is the person 'invading' the house to steal also prepared to kill? it's all very well to say you would, but if killing was THAT easy??? All it means is those who work and earn a living/reasonable wage, will, just like the USA, sleep with a pistol by the bed/under the pillow... So you the 'stealer' have to be prepared to risk dying to steal the 40 inch plasma, jewellery, etc..... Again, how many people are REALLY prepared to risk dying in that circumstance?

Not quite mutual, remember who the aggressor is, it aint mr sleepy. Also remember that most of those that sleep with a gun under their pillow but end up losing are killed with their own gun.
You presume a reasonable living wage but the thread is about working for nothing, the state feeding the profits of the businesses instead of ensuring the survival of its citizens so more than a TV is at steak for the invader, it is steal or die. If you are goign to die by not stealing why not risk having to kill someone you blame for killing you and your friends? Not a way I would want to live but obviously some people think that forcing others to starve and calling on the police for free protection is the way to go.