The new iTunes

[SMOKEU]

I believe one of his points was that every time you compress a track by encoding it into another format you lose quality.

So they compress it before selling it (lowers the quality in the first instance) then you compress it again to a more usable format, You now have dog shit.

Personally I rip my own CD's (paying a premium for something of a lower quality of the original is a tad dumb) to an Mp3 player (Galaxy SII) and use an auxiliary cable to plug it into my amp and car stereo.

The ability to carry my music with me is a tradeoff in regards to quality, But my shelves of cd's are my shrine to all that is holy.

Realistically, how many people have a sound system that is good enough to differentiate between high bitrate MP3 (that in itself could spawn a whole thread) and CD quality? I'd much rather download music for free than pay an exorbitant cost of money (+ labour) for an indiscernible increase in audio quality.

Downloading individual tracks, or even albums is incredibly laborious as well. I'd much rather get a discography torrent to download overnight while I'm sleeping.

[Big Dave]

One day I hope you make something really cool Smokey - and every cunt steals it.

[bogan]

Realistically, how many people have a sound system that is good enough to differentiate between high bitrate MP3 (that in itself could spawn a whole thread) and CD quality?

And those that claim they do, would be very difficult to get to do a blind comparison test...

One day I hope you make something really cool Smokey - and every cunt steals it.

Well, you know that saying about monkeys and typewriters, just give him enough days...

[Headbanger]

Realistically, how many people have a sound system that is good enough to differentiate between high bitrate MP3 (that in itself could spawn a whole thread) and CD quality?.

Millions?

By all means suit yourself, I'll take the quality offering thanks.

[SMOKEU]

One day I hope you make something really cool Smokey - and every cunt steals it.

If I only make one thing, then how can multiple copies be stolen? You said "every cunt steals it", meaning there is more than one thief.

Unless it happens to be an intangible asset.

[Headbanger]

And those that claim they do, would be very difficult to get to do a blind comparison test...

Half the problem is everyone has different taste, expectations and ears.

I'd be more then happy to do a blind comparison test, It would be a bit of a hard case. Pity about the distance.

The day I plugged in my newly purchased amp and speakers was a sad sad day for me, I heard with clarity just how shit my digital audio collection actually was.

[SMOKEU]

Millions?

By all means suit yourself, I'll take the quality offering thanks.

The world has a population of over 1 billion, so "millions" isn't exactly a percentage that would be necesserily quantifiable.

[Headbanger]

The world has a population of over 1 billion, so "millions" isn't exactly a percentage that would be necesserily quantifiable.

Well, I've got two hi-fi set-ups, so thats a start, and Im sure millions of amps and speakers have been sold in the last thirty years.

So, Millions+my two.

I don't ask how many blu-ray players have been sold before sitting down in front of my 55" Lcd to watch a movie, I just enjoy the quality on offer, Others can watch their shitty torrent sourced shit with the audio coming through a plastic set of logitechs....

[Scuba_Steve]

I believe one of his points was that every time you compress a track by encoding it into another format you lose quality.

So they compress it before selling it (lowers the quality in the first instance) then you compress it again to a more usable format, You now have dog shit.

Personally I rip my own CD's (paying a premium for something of a lower quality of the original is a tad dumb) to an Mp3 player (Galaxy SII) and use an auxiliary cable to plug it into my amp and car stereo.

The ability to carry my music with me is a tradeoff in regards to quality, But my shelves of cd's are my shrine to all that is holy.

The avg person cannot distinguish say CD vs 256kbp AAC because the avg person does not have perfect hearing, very few actually do coming into adulthood most fuck that ability in their teens.
But I prefer to buy overpriced pieces of plastic when buying overpriced sound wave scripts too, because I like to see/hold something for my moneys

[imdying]

One day I hope you make something really cool Smokey - and every cunt steals it.

If he price gouges, then he'll deserve it.

Realistically, how many people have a sound system that is good enough to differentiate between high bitrate MP3 (that in itself could spawn a whole thread) and CD quality?

Anybody with a PC and a set of headphones. The clarity difference between a FLAC and 320kbps MP3 is huge. HUGE. I have the same track in both, both rips from the same CD, and I have never found anyone who couldn't tell the difference in a blind test.

[Headbanger]

The avg person cannot distinguish say CD vs 256kbp AAC because the avg person does not have perfect hearing, very few actually do coming into adulthood most fuck that ability in their teens.
But I prefer to buy overpriced pieces of plastic when buying overpriced sound wave scripts too, because I like to see/hold something for my moneys

pppffft, wank off.

You're the same person advocating those shitty plastic desktop speakers as a home theatre system, No need to claim you speak for the average person, You just accept shit or don't know any better.

[Big Dave]

pppffft, wank off.

You're the same person advocating those shitty plastic desktop speakers as a home theatre system, No need to claim you speak for the average person, You just accept shit or don't know any better.

The average person is satisfied with MP3 quality.
I got 100 brazillion dowloads to back the claim.

[Headbanger]

The average person is satisfied with Mcdonalds, they have billions of sales to back this claim.

Or is just because low quality crap is easy to access, cheap, fills the hole, and an entire generation knows no better.

Its a damn shame really, That the quality of audio is being lowered in the studio to reflect the devices and supply methods, Its like taking the finest steak and turning it into shitty patties because that's what people have become accustomed to.

I'll assume that at some time the pendulum will swing back the other way, we already have enough bandwidth (in the world, not NZ) that there is no need to ruin audio for delivery, and if the market can be broken away from apple we can hopefully get good quality, and suitable pricing.

[Big Dave]

Count me as aware and don't care.

[Headbanger]

Count me as aware and don't care.

Then your motivation is....apathy?

Nice work

Anyhow, I'm not against anyone and everyone using whatever suits them best, But people are going to recognize the difference between a porterhouse steak and a sausage, even if the average man eats more sausage then steak.