New Ngauranga camera

**Coldrider** · 21st February 2013, 18:37

Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe

I feel safer already!!

Truman Burbank wouldn't.

**pete376403** · 21st February 2013, 19:25

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

glass bottle, petrol, orange juice, rag, lighter, and darkness. I hear they make for a good combination

orange juice? is it thirsty work?

**oneofsix** · 21st February 2013, 20:01

Originally Posted by pete376403

orange juice? is it thirsty work?

remember how sticky orange juice is? just a guess. Also heard liquid soap works. I would guess the idea is basically napalm

**FJRider** · 21st February 2013, 20:04

Originally Posted by St_Gabriel

So if the rego was on hold, what would the fine be? I would assume there would be no demerit point portion to the offence as points dont apply to speeding offences detected by camera.

It is not a speed camera as such ... it is a Plate recognition camera. Demerits will apply.

**St_Gabriel** · 21st February 2013, 20:11

Originally Posted by FJRider

It is not a speed camera as such ... it is a Plate recognition camera. Demerits will apply.

In which case, who would get the demerits added to their licence? The registered owner? seems unreasonable if they are not the operator. The operator? How can you conclusively prove who that was? Would be interesting to get a definite answer from the resident members of the force.

**oneofsix** · 21st February 2013, 20:14

Saw the front of it on the way home tonight, looks a bit like this but without the light looking thing to the side, rather it has a wide rectangular window underneath the triangle one.

Whilst speeding fine via camera don't incur demerits due to the driver not being conclusively identified however registration is the registered person responsibility, yeah I know it isn't conclusive proof that the registered person is at fault, (stolen vehicle, WOF "test drive" ( remember you require a WOF to register the vehicle) etc) but I wouldn't want to take the risk if I was sitting near the limit.

**Scuba_Steve** · 21st February 2013, 20:15

Originally Posted by pete376403

orange juice? is it thirsty work?

tis indeed, needs to be the type with pulp too

**FJRider** · 21st February 2013, 20:23

Originally Posted by St_Gabriel

In which case, who would get the demerits added to their licence? The registered owner? seems unreasonable if they are not the operator. The operator? How can you conclusively prove who that was? Would be interesting to get a definite answer from the resident members of the force.

The Registered owner gets the letter. It is their responsibility to provide details on who was operating the vehicle at the time ... or pay the fine. As it is now for any photo tickets.

**Coldrider** · 21st February 2013, 20:56

Originally Posted by St_Gabriel

In which case, who would get the demerits added to their licence? The registered owner? seems unreasonable if they are not the operator. The operator? How can you conclusively prove who that was? Would be interesting to get a definite answer from the resident members of the force.

If the camera is ANPR when operational, there would be Popo cars around, or there would be no point.

**FJRider** · 21st February 2013, 21:30

Originally Posted by Coldrider

If the camera is ANPR when operational, there would be Popo cars around, or there would be no point.

Not so. You just get mail.

**Coldrider** · 21st February 2013, 21:38

Originally Posted by FJRider

Not so. You just get mail.

an ordinary speed camera can do that, without speeding.

**rustic101** · 21st February 2013, 21:38

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

glass bottle, petrol, orange juice, rag, lighter, and darkness. I hear they make for a good combination

I'd suggest one of the 18 monitored CCTV cameras in the gorge is actually looking at that camera. Good luck to the person that tries it on....

**MIXONE** · 21st February 2013, 23:24

Originally Posted by rustic101

I'd suggest one of the 18 monitored CCTV cameras in the gorge is actually looking at that camera. Good luck to the person that tries it on....

Bloody spoilsport.

**davereid** · 22nd February 2013, 06:16

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Saw the front of it on the way home tonight, looks a bit like this but without the light looking thing to the side, rather it has a wide rectangular window underneath the triangle one.

Whilst speeding fine via camera don't incur demerits due to the driver not being conclusively identified however registration is the registered person responsibility, yeah I know it isn't conclusive proof that the registered person is at fault, (stolen vehicle, WOF "test drive" ( remember you require a WOF to register the vehicle) etc) but I wouldn't want to take the risk if I was sitting near the limit.

The danger isn't one of being unregistered, having no WOF etc. Just get thoses things, or get a single plate you can use on all your vehicles.

The danger is the gradual creep of the surveillance state.

Right now we can say glib things like "what do you have to worry about if you are not breaking the law?"

Trouble is, at various times, the law has made it illegal to dance if you are irish, breast feed if you are maori, be in a union or not be in a union.

I am always nervous when the state gives itself tools like this.