Pukekohe alterations for V8s. Making the 'hill' more dangerous

[Billy]

MNZ's Not "Anti-Puke" ........ I'm certain Billy is no different to me, he simply wont sign off ANY Permit application until he is satisfied that the Circuit is as safe as realistically possible.

Plus there is an internal MNZ process that certifies permanent Circuits, and logically that cant be gone through until the Track changes and all the attendant barrier changes etc etc are finally finished.

That said, while no longer Commissioner, I CAN say MNZ's priority remains SAFETY .............

Correct,

Just for the record,The development currently underway @ Pukekohe is not an MNZ project and if people knew the facts,They would know there is little point lobbying against the changes being made,We will wait til the development is finished and then discuss the finer details from commission level upwards.

[codgyoleracer]

If you have a concern about the safety of Pukekohe make sure you go through the correct chanels and speak to MNZ about it rather than discussion on Kiwibiker.

Whys that ?

[Biggles08]

Whys that ?

Because discussing safety issues on a public forum is not the correct place to do this.
Many people visit this site, including people who do not have the best for motorcycle racing in their interests.

[sugilite:Me]

Whys that ?

Because someone on the internet might suggest MNZ supply safety bags filled with marshmallows to put against the walls. Then MNZ will need to take shares in Pascals confectionery or risk being sued.

[codgyoleracer]

Because discussing safety issues on a public forum is not the correct place to do this.
Many people visit this site, including people who do not have the best for motorcycle racing in their interests.

Motorcycle racing is not dangerous you say ?............ Hmmmmm

[codgyoleracer]

Because someone on the internet might suggest MNZ supply safety bags filled with marshmallows to put against the walls. Then MNZ will need to take shares in Pascals confectionery or risk being sued.

You should propose that rule change, but make em the pink ones as i prefer those. Maybe mix in a few jellybabies & those ones with the gooey stuff inside, as it will give us all something to munch on whilst we sit on the wall and unable to rejoin.

[wharfy]

Whys that ?

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[sugilite:Me]

You should propose that rule change, but make em the pink ones as i prefer those. Maybe mix in a few jellybabies & those ones with the gooey stuff inside, as it will give us all something to munch on whilst we sit on the wall and unable to rejoin.

Very good points there good sir! Has me wondering though, were MNZ to fill up said bags with black jelly babies, there would be no crashes at all, as nobody seems to like those ones.

[wharfy]

Last paragraph of Herald article
Were pissing into the wind really - 100,000 that's about ten years worth of bike racing spectators !!

Meanwhile, tickets are still available for the April event, but Mosen expected corporate and grandstand tickets to sell out. He tipped a crowd of more than 100,000.

[Grumph]

Looking at those concrete barriers I suspect it would be quite expensive to remove and put them back for one race meeting. So although they might be "temporary", the financial implications make them permanent.

From Pukekohe's perspective, they have one group of users for which they have been given a great gob of cash. Then there is this bikers lot over on the side, who only represent 10% of the usage, and aren't fronting up with any cash. So it is easy to see which way they are going.

The only way to have an equal say in a track would be to front with a pile of cash and buy a controlling interest in it. Hampton's is currently requesting more capital, but I doubt any motorcycle club has $10m to $20m, which is the minimum I would guess they would be wanting.

Just to put things straight as to how they could be and have been done....The Canty Autocycle club - now MCI - put in i believe $25000 to get Ruapuna started - in return they got Easter free for 20 years. Some reinvestment was done and various deals struck for cheap hire. The BEARS club built toilets and amenities and got deals again for cheap hire.
To the best of my knowledge all these deals have now expired - and the Car clubs are very reluctant to tie themselves to any future deals in this way. This seems to be a general thing nationally with the car clubs who operate the pemaent circuits and there's nothing we can do about it now.

[quickbuck]

Last paragraph of Herald article
Were pissing into the wind really - 100,000 that's about ten years worth of bike racing spectators !!

Tell em ees dreamin.....
Last open day we had 70000 or so.... The AIRFIELD was PACKED!
There would be lucky to be enough space for 100k people at Puke....
IF he is talking 100000 tickets over THREE days, then may be so.... Just!

[awa355]

Maybe a little off topic here, but when the NZGP was first ran at Pukekohe, the 'hill' was called Rothmans corner.

Watching a car meeting on tv one day, and I heard reference to "Ford mountain" Surely that must have been a name given for that meeting??

Mountain?? The Bathurst mob would laugh us out of town.

I would hate to see the bikes disappear from Pukey, Been to Hampton park once. As a spectator, I was disappointed.

[GD66]

Mountain?? The Bathurst mob would laugh us out of town.

Always struck me as somewhat ironic that NZ with its hilly nature, had up until Hampton Downs Syndrome opened, a plethora of tracks that were pancake flat, and that Aussie tracks, apart from Surfers and later Ipswich, all had plenty of elevation. It'll be a shame if Hampton does suck the kumara before we get a chance to see what it could have become in its full-length format.

[Biggles08]

Motorcycle racing is not dangerous you say ?............ Hmmmmm

Not what I said G, but note that we have been told many times that KB is not the correct channel to discuss safety issues surrounding our sport. The OP has suggested Pukekohe is now even more unsafe for motorcycles with the new barrier in place. I would have thought this was an inappropriate topic for this forum and he should contact the motorcycle racing governing body to raise his concerns with them directly rather than here.

[codgyoleracer]

Not what I said G, but note that we have been told many times that KB is not the correct channel to discuss safety issues surrounding our sport. The OP has suggested Pukekohe is now even more unsafe for motorcycles with the new barrier in place. I would have thought this was an inappropriate topic for this forum and he should contact the motorcycle racing governing body to raise his concerns with them directly rather than here.

Yip agreed, if anyone wants to take an issue up "officially" , however if one just wants to shoot the breeze and bounce an idea or two around then what the hey.