Busting myths

[Edbear]

Ed, how do you put a value on happiness in order to measure it?

We could not do such studies as part of our papers while I was doing my B.A in Psych, nor have I read a peer reviewed article of any sort that refers to a unit of happiness, nor has there been an agreed unit on which to measure happiness. Any such study is done by either incompetent fucks or horribly bored trolfessors.

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Why so complicated? Are you basically happy? For goodness sake can't you just ask a person a simple question anymore?

[Edbear]

So are you saying gays can't be happy?

Or perhaps the issue is that through the years it's been illegal, and then after that socially unacceptable to admit to being in a homosexual relationship, let alone being happy in one.. and it's still illegal to be in a monogamous homosexual marriage.

(And just to clear the air, I am not gay, I am very happy in a heterosexual relationship, but I know a few people who are also quite happy in their homo relationships too.)

Sent from you already know where you creepy stalker!

All I said was what a researcher said in his interview. The studies were done, (and if certain members weren't so stupid, they would Google them), and were very simply a series of questions to ask people if they were happy in various aspects of their lives and relationships.

There are some obviously very unhappy people here who have nothing to live for but attack others in the silly belief they are clever.

[MSTRS:Me]

There are some obviously very unhappy people here who have nothing to live for but attack others in the silly belief they are clever.

And there are some here who have nothing to live for but to start threads with the potential to create argument in the silly belief they are clever.

[ducatilover]

Why so complicated? Are you basically happy? For goodness sake can't you just ask a person a simple question anymore?

Because it's silly Ed. You cannot measure happiness, it's a feeling and it's different within everyone.
It's as simple as this:
People who want to be married are likely to be happy when married.

That's just like saying motorcyclists are happier motorcyclists when they have motorcycles.
Discuss it with a psychologist, even a psycholinguistics buff with giggle.

Edit: yes I feel happy, I am single too.
Why so complicated? Because things of this nature annoy me.
Simple question? Yes, I'm happy, yes that researcher is a dingbat.

Sent from a tablet of reason, an odd place.

[Banditbandit]

Interview /researcher just another opinionated dick.

You are trolling right ???

As a rule, generalisations don't work.

Happiness is transient, misery is forever

The thing is Ed, that you have very little practical experience of being a single man. Perhaps the paradigm is not that men are happier within a marriage, but that happier people tend to get married.

I have to admit to a lack of experience to relationships outside of marriage....or before marriage

I have experience of both - yes I am much happier married - the sex is more frequent and way way better ... tho' I'd have to admit that my first marriage was a pretty fucked up relationhip - my second marriage is way way better .

Sex is ugly hippie shit anyway Ed.

Yes - more proof that I disagree with almost everything you have to say ... (Oh, we might agree that the front brake is on the right hand bar and the clutch on the left hand bar ... such practical things - but everything else? No ... you are wrong ... )

[Indiana_Jones]

Being married is awesome......or so my wife tells me.....

-Indy

[Edbear]

And there are some here who have nothing to live for but to start threads with the potential to create argument in the silly belief they are clever.

Who? Moi? Does anyone on KB have a sense of humour these days?

Because it's silly Ed. You cannot measure happiness, it's a feeling and it's different within everyone.
It's as simple as this:
People who want to be married are likely to be happy when married.

That's just like saying motorcyclists are happier motorcyclists when they have motorcycles.
Discuss it with a psychologist, even a psycholinguistics buff with giggle.


Sent from a tablet of reason, an odd place.

Now there you go all complicating it again... Knowing if you're happy shouldn't be rocket science.

[Edbear]

Because it's silly Ed. You cannot measure happiness, it's a feeling and it's different within everyone.
It's as simple as this:
People who want to be married are likely to be happy when married.

That's just like saying motorcyclists are happier motorcyclists when they have motorcycles.
Discuss it with a psychologist, even a psycholinguistics buff with giggle.

Edit: yes I feel happy, I am single too.
Why so complicated? Because things of this nature annoy me.
Simple question? Yes, I'm happy, yes that researcher is a dingbat.

Sent from a tablet of reason, an odd place.

Wherever was it said you cannot be happy and single? He simply asked a group of people from both situations whether they were happy in various aspects of their lives. Turned out the largest number of happy people were married.

Being married is awesome......or so my wife tells me.....

-Indy

Your wife knows...

[Banditbandit]

Didn't say it was...just pointing out that the reason for the results may be self selecting participants rather than marriage making them happy.

There has been more than one study .... it's been a result of many studies over a number of years ... and probably many reasons for the answers ... it's complex ...

I see your point. There have been many studies done over the years as society and values change and people's perceptions of what is the norm are changed.

Throughout the years, the conclusions of the studies have remained very constant with the happiest people being those in monogomous heterosexual marriages.

Yes ... exactly .. this is not a new finding ...

Ed, how do you put a value on happiness in order to measure it?

Doesn't need to be complex - just ask people "Are you happy? Yes or No?" ... more heterosexual people in a commited relationship answer "YES". There is a difference between correlation and causality - correlation does not prove causality - but it suggests areas to look in for causality ... (I wonder why so many single men are very defensive about ths type of research ??? )

There's a ladyboy who guarantees to give you happiness for $50. She/He can clearly put a value on happiness.....


or was it apiness? Hold on it was a penis

I'm sorry - if you equate sex with happiness then you need some serious work - you have issues.

Because it's silly Ed. You cannot measure happiness, it's a feeling and it's different within everyone.
It's as simple as this:

Who's asking for a measurerment ? Simlpe question : Are you happy - and yes, you say you are ...

People who want to be married are likely to be happy when married.

Naaa .. it's not that at all .. I left my first wife swearing never to get married again .. and I intended not to .. I lived with a few women .. then lived with one fotr a couple of years ... and I asked her to marry me .. I wanted to stand up in front of friends and family and sa "This is the woman I love and want to spend the rest of my life with" .. (shocked myself too ...)

I know I am happy now .. happier than I have ever been before ..and my relationship wth her is a large part of that - as is owning a house I think is great, in a wonderful part of the world .. not owing the bank any money - having motorycles (plural) and a boat ... etc etc ..

Ask me to define what it is about the relationship and I will struggle ... but she makes me happy ...

That's just like saying motorcyclists are happier motorcyclists when they have motorcycles.
Discuss it with a psychologist, even a psycholinguistics buff with giggle.

Fuck - why complicate it ??? Just so you can trash it? Naa ... heterosexual couples in committed relationshps tend to be happier than those who are single .. the rest is just compications by people who don't like the findings of the research ... not unlike "Speed kills" ... a piece of research that no-one here wants to ageree with ..

Denile is not just a river in Egypt.

Edit: yes I feel happy, I am single too.
Why so complicated? Because things of this nature annoy me.
Simple question? Yes, I'm happy, yes that researcher is a dingbat.

Yes . and?

The research says heterosexual peopel in a committed relationships tend to be happier than single people .. that does not preclude people like you from being happy ... and doesn't say you won't be happy ... your specific example does not disprove the research ...

Your position is like looking at the research that says 51% of the New Zealand population are female ... and saying I'm a man so that is wrong!!!

[Bassmatt]

I'm married but I'm not happy, but not because of my marriage...
So surely people can be married and happy but not because of thier marriage, so maybe being married has nothing to do with why they are happy?

[ducatilover]

Who? Moi? Does anyone on KB have a sense of humour these days?



Now there you go all complicating it again... Knowing if you're happy shouldn't be rocket science.

Wherever was it said you cannot be happy and single? He simply asked a group of people from both situations whether they were happy in various aspects of their lives. Turned out the largest number of happy people were married.



Your wife knows...

There has been more than one study .... it's been a result of many studies over a number of years ... and probably many reasons for the answers ... it's complex ...



Yes ... exactly .. this is not a new finding ...



Doesn't need to be complex - just ask people "Are you happy? Yes or No?" ... more heterosexual people in a commited relationship answer "YES". There is a difference between correlation and causality - correlation does not prove causality - but it suggests areas to look in for causality ... (I wonder why so many single men are very defensive about ths type of research ??? )



I'm sorry - if you equate sex with happiness then you need some serious work - you have issues.



Who's asking for a measurerment ? Simlpe question : Are you happy - and yes, you say you are ...



Naaa .. it's not that at all .. I left my first wife swearing never to get married again .. and I intended not to .. I lived with a few women .. then lived with one fotr a couple of years ... and I asked her to marry me .. I wanted to stand up in front of friends and family and sa "This is the woman I love and want to spend the rest of my life with" .. (shocked myself too ...)

I know I am happy now .. happier than I have ever been before ..and my relationship wth her is a large part of that - as is owning a house I think is great, in a wonderful part of the world .. not owing the bank any money - having motorycles (plural) and a boat ... etc etc ..

Ask me to define what it is about the relationship and I will struggle ... but she makes me happy ...



Fuck - why complicate it ??? Just so you can trash it? Naa ... heterosexual couples in committed relationshps tend to be happier than those who are single .. the rest is just compications by people who don't like the findings of the research ... not unlike "Speed kills" ... a piece of research that no-one here wants to ageree with ..

Denile is not just a river in Egypt.




Yes . and?

The research says heterosexual peopel in a committed relationships tend to be happier than single people .. that does not preclude people like you from being happy ... and doesn't say you won't be happy ... your specific example does not disprove the research ...

Your position is like looking at the research that says 51% of the New Zealand population are female ... and saying I'm a man so that is wrong!!!

Well I'm glad I wound one person up

Sent from my happy, but scientifically fucked, place

[ducatilover]

Wherever was it said you cannot be happy and single? He simply asked a group of people from both situations whether they were happy in various aspects of their lives. Turned out the largest number of happy people were married.

Then why did researchers find around 45% of marriages fail? Does the happiness explode, or are people just saying they're happy?

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[Edbear]

Then why did researchers find around 45% of marriages fail? Does the happiness explode, or are people just saying they're happy?

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Somewhat ironic I agree. Marriage, like all personal relationships, is dependent on self-sacrifice, discernment and tolerance. My marriage in itself has not always been happy and like all couples we have had our ups and downs and could have split up several times.

However something held us together and over the years we have grown closer rather than apart. It is a conscious decision not only a romantic feeling to decide whether to break up or not, too.

The research tends to suggest a giving up through not knowing what to do rather than falling out of love or not being happy. When a wife, or a husband for that matter, says she has had enough and is leaving. You ask which she would prefer - to break up or fix the problem? Most times she would prefer to fix the problem so things were better.

Even those who have left abusive relationships feel they have failed in some way and that they "couldn't solve the problem".

[ducatilover]

Somewhat ironic I agree. Marriage, like all personal relationships, is dependent on self-sacrifice, discernment and tolerance. My marriage in itself has not always been happy and like all couples we have had our ups and downs and could have split up several times.

However something held us together and over the years we have grown closer rather than apart. It is a conscious decision not only a romantic feeling to decide whether to break up or not, too.

The research tends to suggest a giving up through not knowing what to do rather than falling out of love or not being happy. When a wife, or a husband for that matter, says she has had enough and is leaving. You ask which she would prefer - to break up or fix the problem? Most times she would prefer to fix the problem so things were better.

Even those who have left abusive relationships feel they have failed in some way and that they "couldn't solve the problem".

I am trying to pull yer leg Ed failing pretty well, we need sarcasm and cheeky glint fonts.
I'm not surprised married chaps will say they're happier, they married the bird 'coz she's purfect.

I do however think it doesn't display a lot, there have been multiple studies showing it goes both ways.
I do however love the other points related to people being happy! Being old, republican, male...

Cudos to you and yer wifey, my people what gave birth to me are still happy and my married brother is also happy.


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[Zedder]

Then why did researchers find around 45% of marriages fail? Does the happiness explode, or are people just saying they're happy?

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Given your admission of utilising a billy goats hoof for transmission of that post, I find a distinct correlation between that and a Norwegian legend about Trolls.

However, this is based purely on anecdotal evidence and I have no scientifitc data to support it further.


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