NZSBK: Round IV from Hampton Downs, 16-17 March. Feedback?

[sidecar bob]

Maybe the C.O.C. needs a hand ?

Great idea, We should have a mass debate about that one.

[scrivy]

Great idea, We should have a mass debate about that one.

But with all the rain, the biscuit might turn soggy........

Oh hang on............... Nodrog will be along to munch on it.........

[Gremlin]

Does anyone know the outcome of the 600 race 2 with Jayden touching the yellow pit line? I thought he was DQ'ed nek minit he was re included. Whats the go there? I thought they were pretty clear at riders briefing about that?

He crossed the blend line, so got whatever penalty it is. He protested, explaining he lost the rear end and was more concerned with getting the bike back under control then a painted line. His explanation was accepted.

[malcy25]

Okay, so some car dropping it's lunch is not a great thing and delayed proceedings. That was about lunch time. But let's also look at some of the other delays that were AFTER this and not any fault of the club.

Off the top of my head there was the 125 restart and the time associated with the tending to the fallen rider Any other race stoppages ? (I can't recall was busy on some other stuff so missed some races)

There was also a delay for a period of time to let the track drain there was so much water on it (30 minutes IIRC).

The first one the riders have an element of control over (ie don't fall off, and there's no delays...the choice is yours!)

The second is climate and I have yet to find a way to control that!

Years ago when I was setting programming times at Puke, we ran races on the basis of 2 minutes per lap (noting superbikes are sub 1 minute) to account for all the screwing about with red flags, ambulances, pick ups, restarts, etc etc.

So what I'm saying is, the programme probably had the room it needed to run everything and even at lunchtimish, it probably still did. But things happen which can blow it out even when you have contingency time.

[CHOPPA]

Okay, so some car dropping it's lunch is not a great thing and delayed proceedings. That was about lunch time. But let's also look at some of the other delays that were AFTER this and not any fault of the club.

Off the top of my head there was the 125 restart and the time associated with the tending to the fallen rider Any other race stoppages ? (I can't recall was busy on some other stuff so missed some races)

There was also a delay for a period of time to let the track drain there was so much water on it (30 minutes IIRC).

The first one the riders have an element of control over (ie don't fall off, and there's no delays...the choice is yours!)

The second is climate and I have yet to find a way to control that!

Years ago when I was setting programming times at Puke, we ran races on the basis of 2 minutes per lap (noting superbikes are sub 1 minute) to account for all the screwing about with red flags, ambulances, pick ups, restarts, etc etc.

So what I'm saying is, the programme probably had the room it needed to run everything and even at lunchtimish, it probably still did. But things happen which can blow it out even when you have contingency time.

So your saying starting earlier would solve the problem? I like your thinking!

[FLIPTOP]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130518094]I organised the series but the C.O.C has control of the meeting and I have NO jurisdiction on the day,There was a set format that was supposed to be run at EVERY round,So far only one club has bothered to run to that schedule,Time for a change me thinks.[/QUOTE

Sorry reply on wrong post!!
This was supposed to go on the one that suggested Marshals should be briefed outside the track.
Flags need to go to start finish lines and onto all points. Uniforms and Flags are transported to every meeting. They do not load and unload themselves. Radios need to be issued from Hampton Control and tested. 31 Flag Marshals are required at The Hampton Downs Track. Marshals are out on the track waiting before riders even have a briefing and still out there after your class is finished and you are going home. Remember they are all volunteers. Some even take Days off work giving up holidays to marshal for all the racers out there. You would be surprised how long some of them drive to get there and at what hour they get up to be there by seven. Some riders have Marshaled to help out when their bikes are broken or only do track days or club days which is Fantastic. If every Racer Marshaled for nearly three days in a row they would probably appreciate how much organisation and dedication is involved. Remember without Marshals there would be no racing.

[nodrog:Me]

Sorry reply on wrong post!!
This was supposed to go on the one that suggested Marshals should be briefed outside the track.
Flags need to go to start finish lines and onto all points. Uniforms and Flags are transported to every meeting. They do not load and unload themselves. Radios need to be issued from Hampton Control and tested. 31 Flag Marshals are required at The Hampton Downs Track. Marshals are out on the track waiting before riders even have a briefing and still out there after your class is finished and you are going home. Remember they are all volunteers. Some even take Days off work giving up holidays to marshal for all the racers out there. You would be surprised how long some of them drive to get there and at what hour they get up to be there by seven. Some riders have Marshaled to help out when their bikes are broken or only do track days or club days which is Fantastic. If every Racer Marshaled for nearly three days in a row they would probably appreciate how much organisation and dedication is involved. Remember without Marshals there would be no racing.

Yeah I agree, thats sounds heaps harder and way more work than carting a race bike around the country and racing it.

[FLIPTOP]

Yeah I agree, thats sounds heaps harder and way more work than carting a race bike around the country and racing it.

I am married to a Racer so yes I know what is involved. What I was getting at is that some people seem to be suggesting that Marshals should be out on the track almost when its still dark waiting on the racers. If most racers turned up on the Dummy Grid on time over the weekend that would of sped things up a lot. I say most as some did get there and were waiting. If they had sent the few out waiting and closed the pits 3/4 of each race would of been starting in pit lane. That would have made happy racers but then they could learn the hard way about being on time.

[Maido]

He crossed the blend line, so got whatever penalty it is. He protested, explaining he lost the rear end and was more concerned with getting the bike back under control then a painted line. His explanation was accepted.

hmm

[SWERVE]

When i started in the sport as a Marshall back in 1980. We had to be at track no later than 6.00am. Scrutinneering for ALL bikes started at 6.00am. And you would be working /checking bikes while it was dark. Mind you we did then get a hot breakfast provided at 7.30/7.45 and bikes were always on track no later than 9.00. And after we packed up we would hang around to chat to the riders in the clubrooms. And they really appreciated the job we done. It was a 16/17 hr day by the time you got back home.
Everyones gone soft............. and the appreciation for those who help the event run is not as forthcoming.

[SWERVE]

hmm

Mmmmmm indeed

[scrivy]

hmm

I see where you're going with this....... as he is still on the line, he technically did not cross it......

[Maido]

I see where you're going with this....... as he is still on the line, he technically did not cross it......

I only put the picture up, I made no comment.......

[sidecar bob]

I see where you're going with this....... as he is still on the line, he technically did not cross it......

Not sure why you would want to ride on it anyway. Its slippery as shit, as Cam Donald demonstrated.

[codgyoleracer]

Not sure why you would want to ride on it anyway. Its slippery as shit, as Cam Donald demonstrated.

Cameron Donald ?, whos he ?, - oh yeah he's the one that flogged my lap record........... (bugger).

Beutifull bit of kit that bike and bloody well ridden aye. It always had a crowd around it - Usually more than alll the other machines there...............