Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[ducatilover]

I invite anyone here (both sides of the debate) to watch Penn & Tellers Bullshit, particularly season 2 episode 4, while their opinion is obvious, their research is undeniable

Also, The Union and Superhigh me

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Penn and Teller are awesome, but their research isn't always that superb (like anything on teh tellyvisionthing). I'll have to look that episode up though, I don't remember it. Bloody good entertainment

[mashman]

Oh please, now you cant even tell the difference between a high and a sugar rush in a kid.
Try again! this time at least try and be sensible about it and then i might be prepared to at least read another post.

A sugar rush isn't a high? Come on. Highs aren't all just sink into the couch you know. As I've said before, I'm up and ready to do something, pretty much anything, even clothes shopping with the missis and that's saying something. It's an artificially induced state that messes with the head. Isn't that what a high is? It's more akin to speed and it's perfectly legal and generally to the amusement of the parents... and because it's contrary to your argument you dismiss it out of hand? Put it this way. If your kid rides a bike in the paddock, would you let them if they were in sugar rush city?

[mashman]

In you that may be, but in the norm it would definitely not.

Now you're being silly. Get a smoker to go without a cig for 4 hours and ask them if they feel more coherent than they did 4 hours ago. Simple experiment that you can do with anyone that you know that smokes cigarettes. And how often do you here people grumbling about the need for a coffee and that they can't really get up to speed without one. I think you're confusing the norm with guesswork. Ask the questions of "normal" people and see what they say.

[ducatilover]

Now you're being silly. Get a smoker to go without a cig for 4 hours and ask them if they feel more coherent than they did 4 hours ago. Simple experiment that you can do with anyone that you know that smokes cigarettes. And how often do you here people grumbling about the need for a coffee and that they can't really get up to speed without one. I think you're confusing the norm with guesswork. Ask the questions of "normal" people and see what they say.

I can go without a fag for 4 hours without coherency issues. But there are many who become grumpy plonkers after such time.
But, do not deny a guy of his coffee Mashy, that's just fucked up mate.

(I'm generally useless in the morning, pre-dilmah)

[Katman]

I can go without a fag for 4 hours without coherency issues.

What are you like after 4 days?

[mashman]

I can go without a fag for 4 hours without coherency issues. But there are many who become grumpy plonkers after such time.
But, do not deny a guy of his coffee Mashy, that's just fucked up mate.

(I'm generally useless in the morning, pre-dilmah)

impressive... I definitely fall into the grumpy plonker category and it feels as though I've taken tramadol.
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heh, same as my missis. Don't fuck with the scots lass until she's had her morning fix.

[ducatilover]

What are you like after 4 days?

I find the cravings very similar to feeling a bit hungry. I have more issues going without a cuppa for a day or two, funny how I get worse caffeine withdraws than nicotine ones eh?

impressive... I definitely fall into the grumpy plonker category and it feels as though I've taken tramadol.
:
heh, same as my missis. Don't fuck with the scots lass until she's had her morning fix.

I must be a bit lucky then
One does not simply remove the caffeine source

[Grubber]

Now you're being silly. Get a smoker to go without a cig for 4 hours and ask them if they feel more coherent than they did 4 hours ago. Simple experiment that you can do with anyone that you know that smokes cigarettes. And how often do you here people grumbling about the need for a coffee and that they can't really get up to speed without one. I think you're confusing the norm with guesswork. Ask the questions of "normal" people and see what they say.

They are coherant, not high, and best of all it's only addiction and not a high.
The norm would not mean being dependant. Still no rush or high invloved.

[Katman]

They are coherant, not high, and best of all it's only addiction and not a high.

Are you trying to suggest that blackdog wasn't coherent.

[Fast Eddie]

Yup I'm telling you exactly that. Sure I could overindulge. But a toke or two or three eases my pain levels and makes me warm and fuzzy.

No doubt, I approve and agree

Are you telling me that you can have a toke and be just warm and fuzzy?? I say bullshit!

..You may say that, but you don't actually know do you?.. Are you a current or previous cannabis user that has experienced first hand the effects of different dosage amounts ?

and it doesn't entice me to welcome drugs of any sort to work or residence.

I take it you and you're entire family don't intake caffeine in any shape or form, or alcohol or any sort of panadol, neurofen etc.. As they are all considered drugs.

.. one CAN have a couple of drinks with no intention of being pissed, you can't make that statement when it comes to dope.

Whether you intend to get pissed or not, drink a couple of beers and that will change your blood alcohol level, whether you're intending for it to do this or not is beside point. Alcohol in any amount will have some effect on you. The old excuse to the cops when one fails an alcohol checkpoint - "Oh I'm not drunk, I feel sober as, I've only had a few!"

So yes, you can make the exact same statement when it comes to pot. You can have 1 spot or a toke and not intend to be munted for the rest of the afternoon watching re runs of South Park. You wouldn't know if you aren't a regular user. Lots of factors come into play such as tolerance and experience and environment. But you can have small amount and feel less effect. You have a larger amount you feel more of an effect. Almost seems.. logical..

i can't wait till all the dope heads die off either

You won't see it in your lifetime..

There druggies, there wont be an inheritance.

They're..

Bit hard to lecture morals when ya got none.

replace the word 'morals' in that sentence with 'logic and reason' and I feel that I am watching you try!

[SMOKEU]

They are coherant, not high, and best of all it's only addiction and not a high.
The norm would not mean being dependant. Still no rush or high invloved.

If there was no "rush or high" from tobacco, then why would anyone start smoking tobacco in the first place?


Sent from my bong resin.

[mashman]

I must be a bit lucky then
One does not simply remove the caffeine source

cunt

They are coherant, not high, and best of all it's only addiction and not a high.
The norm would not mean being dependant. Still no rush or high invloved.

They're anything but coherent. Half the time they can barely string a sentence together and you can see by the size of their pupils that they're "on something". It's a high and fuck they're grumpy when they have a come down eh.
I still dispute that the norm is people not having concentration issues given conversations I've had with cig smokers and coffee drinkers.

[Edbear]

Fixed that for ya Ed.

Oh come on, you can do better than that. Boringly predictable!

In capital letters?

Seriously bad form! Posting family pics of innocents and making stupid comments should be infracted!

impressive... I definitely fall into the grumpy plonker category and it feels as though I've taken tramadol.
:
heh, same as my missis. Don't fuck with the scots lass until she's had her morning fix.

Hey, Tramadol is what keeps me vertical!

[Katman]

Seriously bad form! Posting family pics of innocents and making stupid comments should be infracted!

What? It's in a publicly viewable album shitforbrains.

Hey, Tramadol is what keeps me vertical!

So it's only prescription drugs that you're addicted to then?

[Edbear]

What? It's in a publicly viewable album shitforbrains.

So it's only prescription drugs that you're addicted to then?

Leave innocent children out of your angst! Say what you like about adult members but even someone as stupid as you should know you were out of order! Do you have any morals at all?