Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[SMOKEU]

Ah, so it is your personal opinion, not researched fact. Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh?

If you do some Googling you will find that the effects of consuming cannabis and alcohol are vastly different. Ethanol and the various psychoactive cannabinoids present in cannabis affect the body in completely different ways.

You should just have a sesh and compare it to being pissed. Go on, you know you secretly want to. I dare you. Be a rebel for once.

[Katman]

Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh?

Once again Ed, that's you to a T.

[Edbear]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

"Attentiveness, vigilance, perception of time and speed, and use of acquired knowledge are all affected by marijuana;18–21 in fact, a meta-analysis of 60 studies concluded that marijuana causes impairment in every performance area that can reasonably be connected with safe driving of a vehicle, such as tracking, motor coordination, visual functions, and particularly complex tasks that require divided attention..."

"Not all deficits can be compensated for through the use of behavioral strategies, however. Both alcohol and marijuana use increase reaction time and the number of incorrect responses to emergencies.43 Drivers under the influence of marijuana were not able to compensate for standard deviation of lateral position (SDLP, a measure of staying within lane), which increased with increasing doses of THC. This is a measure that is not subject to conscious compensatory mechanisms in the way that other aspects of driving are. Other studies have found poorer monitoring of the speedometer under the influence of marijuana,54 increased decision time when passing,52 increased time needed to brake when a light suddenly changes,55 and increased time to respond to a changing light45, 56 or sudden sound.57 Drivers also crashed more frequently into a sudden obstacle on a high dose of marijuana, although this did not happen at a low dose."

Mixed issues in this report and yes, I did note the obvious points users will highlight. The comments I have quoted are in spite of those factors, these remain.

"One weakness of driving studies is that subjects are aware of being observed and assessed, so such studies are generally a better measure of what drivers are capable of doing rather than what they actually do. Epidemiological studies attempt to assess the actual risk that a driver may cause an accident under the influence of a drug, relative to that of a sober person driving under similar conditions."

"In summary, laboratory tests and driving studies show that cannabis may acutely impair several driving-related skills in a dose-related fashion, but that the effects between individuals vary more than they do with alcohol because of tolerance, differences in smoking technique, and different absorptions of THC. Driving and simulator studies show that detrimental effects vary in a dose-related fashion, and are more pronounced with highly automatic driving functions, but more complex tasks that require conscious control are less affected, which is the opposite pattern from that seen with alcohol. "

So a lot of argument about the subject yet to come and more accurate studies are required. One factor I noted was the rapidity with which THC leaves the body which meant that by the time the accident victim is tested their levels may be significantly lower than at the time of the accident or even gone completely.

[bogan]

Ah, so it is your personal opinion, not researched fact. Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh?

Wow; KB must hove some super duper irony protection upgrades for the servers not to have imploded after that statement

[Edbear]

Wow; KB must hove some super duper irony protection upgrades for the servers not to have imploded after that statement

See above for a starter...

[Grubber]

"Well adjusted 25 year old"?

Well adjusted at what? Being a judgmental, hypocritical fool like yourself? Nice job of parenting.

Typical dope smoking response!
No surprises there!

She doesnt touch drugs, drink very little, has huge scores at al levels from uni and previous school experience and is the Mother of 2 amazing kids.

That makes her better than a racist, dope smoking faggot like you in my books.

[Grubber]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

"Attentiveness, vigilance, perception of time and speed, and use of acquired knowledge are all affected by marijuana;18–21 in fact, a meta-analysis of 60 studies concluded that marijuana causes impairment in every performance area that can reasonably be connected with safe driving of a vehicle, such as tracking, motor coordination, visual functions, and particularly complex tasks that require divided attention..."

"Not all deficits can be compensated for through the use of behavioral strategies, however. Both alcohol and marijuana use increase reaction time and the number of incorrect responses to emergencies.43 Drivers under the influence of marijuana were not able to compensate for standard deviation of lateral position (SDLP, a measure of staying within lane), which increased with increasing doses of THC. This is a measure that is not subject to conscious compensatory mechanisms in the way that other aspects of driving are. Other studies have found poorer monitoring of the speedometer under the influence of marijuana,54 increased decision time when passing,52 increased time needed to brake when a light suddenly changes,55 and increased time to respond to a changing light45, 56 or sudden sound.57 Drivers also crashed more frequently into a sudden obstacle on a high dose of marijuana, although this did not happen at a low dose."

Mixed issues in this report and yes, I did note the obvious points users will highlight. The comments I have quoted are in spite of those factors, these remain.

"One weakness of driving studies is that subjects are aware of being observed and assessed, so such studies are generally a better measure of what drivers are capable of doing rather than what they actually do. Epidemiological studies attempt to assess the actual risk that a driver may cause an accident under the influence of a drug, relative to that of a sober person driving under similar conditions."

"In summary, laboratory tests and driving studies show that cannabis may acutely impair several driving-related skills in a dose-related fashion, but that the effects between individuals vary more than they do with alcohol because of tolerance, differences in smoking technique, and different absorptions of THC. Driving and simulator studies show that detrimental effects vary in a dose-related fashion, and are more pronounced with highly automatic driving functions, but more complex tasks that require conscious control are less affected, which is the opposite pattern from that seen with alcohol. "

So a lot of argument about the subject yet to come and more accurate studies are required. One factor I noted was the rapidity with which THC leaves the body which meant that by the time the accident victim is tested their levels may be significantly lower than at the time of the accident or even gone completely.

Can't do any more green rep for you sorry Ed!

[SMOKEU]

Typical dope smoking response!
No surprises there!

She doesnt touch drugs, drink very little, has huge scores at al levels from uni and previous school experience and is the Mother of 2 amazing kids.

That makes her better than a racist, dope smoking faggot like you in my books.

Is that really the best you can come up with? You can't fabricate a reasonable explanation to refute my statement(s), so you have to resort to petty personal attacks. It really says more about you than it does about me.

Oh, and please post some pics of your daughter if she's a MILF.

[blackdog]

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

[Katman]

Oops.

Busted again.

[bogan]

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

Look, if weed makes you not see 25yo women, who knows what you'll miss if driving when under the pot

[SMOKEU]

Grubber, if you're going to keep lying, then do yourself a favour and keep your story straight. Failing to do so only removes any credibility you may have left (not that you really had any to begin with). Served!

[ducatilover]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

"Attentiveness, vigilance, perception of time and speed etc etc rare insightful post to do with fact stuff. .

Good post Ed. I'm pretty sure we all knew that can-a-bish does impair ones ability to function normally and increases with dosage, and I'll be surprised to see any reasonable argument over this. Or any reasonable argument at all?

And where the hell are my clones?

Sent from the starship enterprise.

[imdying]

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

What would you know you dirty dope smoking hippy!

[Mushu]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/
Blah blah blah..........

Nobody ever said weed doesn't have an effect, smokeu has a point that you can get way more fucked up on alcohol, it doesn't impare motor function in the same way.
Even extreme amounts of cannabis just results it an intense lethargy, I have tested the non-toxicity of cannabis many times with incredible doses, and I'm always able to get myself to bed unassisted.

I believe even the pro cannabis camp would be happy to be subject to similar rules in regard to driving as alcohol and prescription medication, my preferance would be a sobriety test much like they use in America.

Grubber, lol, keep digging that hole, you are providing most of the entertainment in this thread.



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