Baroness Thatcher dies overnight

[MisterD]

What an ugly women and i'm not just meaning in looks.

I'm sure you can photos on the web with her boobs out during her acting career...but yeah, typical modern Labour party: born on the Wirral, now MP for Hampstead or Highgate or somesuch priviledged, Guardian-reading, enclave.

[slowpoke]

Spud, I would have thought indifferent administrations for roughly 20 or more years prior to Maggie sowed a lot of seeds that turned very ugly. When she took over the country was bankrupt of funds and work ethic.

Yep, pretty much agree Robert. As with anything it's not a simple stuation of saying she was good or bad. She undoubtedly did some great things, but also some incredibly damaging things. I'm all for "firm but fair" but too much of what she did seemed too brutal/callous to hold her up as a heroine.

[GrayWolf]

Enoch Powell? He sounds like a bloke in touch with average life on the streets:

"Before entering politics, he had been a classical scholar, becoming a full Professor of Ancient Greek at the age of 25. During the Second World War, he served in both staff and intelligence positions, reaching the rank of brigadier in his early thirties. He also wrote poetry, his first works being published in 1937, as well as many books on classical and political subjects" Wiki

Errrrr, maybe not.........

Brixton riots? Many social commentators attribute those riots to the effects of Margaret Thatchers policies: she lead the country into 2 recessions, and presided over record unelmpoyment not seen since the Great Depression. In 1979 13.4% of the population lived under the 60% median income threshold, by 1990 it had gone up to 22.2% (from the Institute of Fiscal Studies). She sold off the council houses, creating a massive shortage of affordable housing, as no new stock was built to replace the houses sold. Some 5 million people are now on the social housing waiting list.

" Last month, the Daily Mirror reported that Charles Gow, the son of Mrs. Thatcher’s housing minister, Ian Gow, bought 40 of the 120 former council flats in one housing project in Roehampton, in South West London. Rents for the former council flats have soared, leaving some low-income tenants begging for higher rental subsidies. “Speculators have made millions out of exploiting public assets,” Tony Belton, a Labour councillor in South West London, told the Mirror. “It stinks.” From http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11015971/

You reap what you sow, and given the booming inequality in the UK, generational unemployment, and social disfunction, it's hard not to argue that Margaret Thatcher sowed the seeds for the discontent that continues to this day.

Brixton riots?
Actually the 'trigger' for them was supposed to be stated by the 'Black Community Leaders of the time', the death of a 15yr old boy in Police custody, and the supposed 'anti black' law, of stop and search on 'suspicion of possessing drugs' .... Funny thing was, they bleated about that only 'Blacks' were targeted as being 'Muggers' another Brixton/Streatham high level crime, but statisticaly? over 90% were PERPETRATED by 'Coloured offenders'...... But hey that was Police racism?

Low Cost Housing?
One thing many here (NZ) would NOT realise is the housing situation in the UK is VERY different to NZ. In the UK house ownership is not an 'affordable' phenomenon, due mainly I guess to less land available, far larger population.. MOST Housing is Council or 'State' housing.. so the bleating of 'high prices' from private rentals? is a percentage yes, but not the majority.. Hell rents have ALWAYS been 'high' in the private sector. When I was a lad and left home at 17 (1976) renting a 'small room' in a house 'Bedsit' (basically you rent a room and it has your bed, benchtop cooker, fridge etc in it and usually has a coin electricity meter in the room) you LIVE in that room, no shared lounge.. but you share toilet, washing facilities ,, RENT for a small bedsit back then was 8 quid a week. That was in the SUBURBS not London.

Reap what you sow? The COUNTRY reaped what it had sown for the previous 20+ years, overspending, over immigration, Union destructive behaviour, Oh and dont forget the UK was the ONLY country that had a War debt to the USA and actually DID pay it off in entirety, that cost the country Billions over a 40 year period! Had Maggie NOT stood against the Miners, then I believe that you would have seen a total collapse THEN of the Country. I agree there were some things she really did 'overdo' the poll tax was a farce, and as much as her staunchness was the right person at the right time for the FALKLANDS, sadly I would agree she did start to believe her own 'invincibility' as a leader.
One of the things that strangely enough happened AFTER it was 'too late' was a change in the UK immigration law, it used to be allowed that if you were a 'british citizen' you could 'import' family almost without control.. so you ended up with entire family generations coming over and claiming citizenship... that was screamed at by the 'lefties' as racist........ look at the country now... it's the social welfare HAVEN of Europe... it's over populated, and rents are so frikkin high (due to lack of housing) BECAUSE there's too many people, and 'imports' get priority over nationals for state housing, social benefits..........

And you wonder why I got out in the early 90's?............

[Brian d marge]

What an ugly women and i'm not just meaning in looks.
If this is what you class as well spoken i'm glad you think it's unlike NZ.

Well , Im sorry she didn’t read from "notes" stung sentences together without using "and Um "

Must be lunch time in in the NZ , so here something to help you relieve the tension in the toilet


Stephen

[Oscar]

Well , Im sorry she didn’t read from "notes" stung sentences together without using "and Um "

Must be lunch time in in the NZ , so here something to help you relieve the tension in the toilet


Stephen

Congratulations, every time I think this place couldn't get more childish or moronic, you prove me wrong.

[Usarka]

£10 million squids for the funeral. That's about NZD17,000.

[Brian d marge]

Congratulations, every time I think this place couldn't get more childish or moronic, you prove me wrong.

hey, I only responded to your post in an appropriate manner and at the correct level for its reader

Stephen

[Oscar]

hey, I only responded to your post in an appropriate manner and at the correct level for its reader

Stephen

Firstly, you weren't responding to my post.
Secondly, and judging by your usual spelling, punctuation and grammar, you were responding at a level slight above your average keyboard diarrhea contribution.

Notwithstanding all that, a Nazi comparison?
Really?

Is that the best you can do?

[Robert Taylor]

Brixton riots?
Actually the 'trigger' for them was supposed to be stated by the 'Black Community Leaders of the time', the death of a 15yr old boy in Police custody, and the supposed 'anti black' law, of stop and search on 'suspicion of possessing drugs' .... Funny thing was, they bleated about that only 'Blacks' were targeted as being 'Muggers' another Brixton/Streatham high level crime, but statisticaly? over 90% were PERPETRATED by 'Coloured offenders'...... But hey that was Police racism?

Low Cost Housing?
One thing many here (NZ) would NOT realise is the housing situation in the UK is VERY different to NZ. In the UK house ownership is not an 'affordable' phenomenon, due mainly I guess to less land available, far larger population.. MOST Housing is Council or 'State' housing.. so the bleating of 'high prices' from private rentals? is a percentage yes, but not the majority.. Hell rents have ALWAYS been 'high' in the private sector. When I was a lad and left home at 17 (1976) renting a 'small room' in a house 'Bedsit' (basically you rent a room and it has your bed, benchtop cooker, fridge etc in it and usually has a coin electricity meter in the room) you LIVE in that room, no shared lounge.. but you share toilet, washing facilities ,, RENT for a small bedsit back then was 8 quid a week. That was in the SUBURBS not London.

Reap what you sow? The COUNTRY reaped what it had sown for the previous 20+ years, overspending, over immigration, Union destructive behaviour, Oh and dont forget the UK was the ONLY country that had a War debt to the USA and actually DID pay it off in entirety, that cost the country Billions over a 40 year period! Had Maggie NOT stood against the Miners, then I believe that you would have seen a total collapse THEN of the Country. I agree there were some things she really did 'overdo' the poll tax was a farce, and as much as her staunchness was the right person at the right time for the FALKLANDS, sadly I would agree she did start to believe her own 'invincibility' as a leader.
One of the things that strangely enough happened AFTER it was 'too late' was a change in the UK immigration law, it used to be allowed that if you were a 'british citizen' you could 'import' family almost without control.. so you ended up with entire family generations coming over and claiming citizenship... that was screamed at by the 'lefties' as racist........ look at the country now... it's the social welfare HAVEN of Europe... it's over populated, and rents are so frikkin high (due to lack of housing) BECAUSE there's too many people, and 'imports' get priority over nationals for state housing, social benefits..........

And you wonder why I got out in the early 90's?............

Well said that man! As Spud ( Slowpoke ) concurs its all very complicated. Governing modern day Britain would certainly have to be a hiding to hell.

[BoristheBiter]

hey, I only responded to your post in an appropriate manner and at the correct level for its reader

Stephen

You were responding to mine.
It didn't need a response as it was an observation not a question.

I don't need to add anymore as Oscar has said it.

[Brian d marge]

You were responding to mine.
It didn't need a response as it was an observation not a question.

I don't need to add anymore as Oscar has said it.

whoops sorry about that , poking fun at Oscar is now a conditioned response ...

fk me,,, first I agree with you now apologising to Oscar, the friggen worlds gone crazy


Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

whoops sorry about that , poking fun at Oscar is now a conditioned response ...

fk me,,, first I agree with you now apologising to Oscar, the friggen worlds gone crazy


Stephen

I might have to use that as my sig.

[SVboy]

I understand that maggie fucked even more young brits than jimmy saville. I heard that are not happy with the design of her grave-couldnt make the dance floor big enough. Good riddance IMHO.

[rapid van cleef]

Having lived through Maggies reign as a young-un through most of my teens I witnessed first hand the misery of mass unemployment and actual hunger that was caused by that woman and her policies which affected us particularly badly in the North East of England. However, I do believe that the UK was well and truly fucked by what happened next....as Graywolf said......the open dor policy for immigration which has now in turn bred so much rascism in the UK. Theres a reason, rather many reasons why many of us left the UK and are still leaving. She certainly had courage and had bigger balls than a lot of male PM's but I still would not piss on her if she was on fire.........er.....

[Brian d marge]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22104151

dont worry everything is ok

Stephen