We're all in the wrong business!

[Dave-]

That's half the reason why the internet exists, to run online scams.

That's not a scam though?

[SMOKEU]

That's not a scam though?

With the prices some people seem to get away with, it's not far off.

[breakaway]

That is the very definition of business. Buy low, sell high.

Amazing the amount of people that start to get butthurt once they learn the margin amounts.

Whether or not it is ethical to is irrelevant. A business exists to make money, not to provide a charity.

[sidecar bob]

That is the very definition of business. Buy low, sell high.

Amazing the amount of people that start to get butthurt once they learn the margin amounts.

Whether or not it is ethical to is irrelevant. A business exists to make money, not to provide a charity.

But if a busniness does not operate ethically & fairly it will eventually self destruct.
Reasonable margins over a long period work far better than large margins over the short term.
Ripping people off will usually only make someone nigger rich.

[breakaway]

Right, my bad, I forgot -- KB is home to NZ's foremost business experts also

[Edbear]

Right, my bad, I forgot -- KB is home to NZ's foremost business experts also

As a cross-section of society, KB is home to experts in everything.

Tricky bit is working out the one's who know what they are talking about. In this I tend to listen to those who are actually doing the business, rather than those keyboard warriors who wouldn't have a clue. Like the analogy of becoming a millionnaire, everyone knows how, but would you listen to a street-beggar or a Millionnaire as to the best way to go about it?

[sidecar bob]

Right, my bad, I forgot -- KB is home to NZ's foremost business experts also

Yeah, Ive had a great run with my very succesful business over the past 19 odd years by applying a few ethics, what about you? Im picking you read a good book about it once.

[neels]

Meh, if you can make it yourself for less, make it yourself.

If you want someone else to do it for you, expect to pay for their time ordering parts, their time to assemble it, their time to process your order, the cost of having stuff sitting there waiting for someone to buy it instead of money sitting in their bank account. If you don't like paying for all of that, don't buy the thing.

[Dave-]

Yeah, Ive had a great run with my very succesful business over the past 19 odd years by applying a few ethics, what about you? Im picking you read a good book about it once.

My Engineering Management lecturer told me there was some research into whether ethical businesses are any better off.

I don't remember what she said about it cause I was playing angry birds or super hexigon, but I thought you should know there is research that may or may not support your claim!

Personally I think ethical business is entirely an opinion and one I'm sure most who are involved in it are aware of, and if that's how they wish to conduct their business then so be it. It doesn't take a genius to realise you can undercut him by charging $50 for the same part and still sit on your ethical high horse, but then you have to ask yourself, is that ethical?

Uni holidays, you can tell huh?

[bogan]

My Engineering Management lecturer told me there was some research into whether ethical businesses are any better off.

I don't remember what she said about it cause I was playing angry birds or super hexigon, but I thought you should know there is research that may or may not support your claim!

Personally I think ethical business is entirely an opinion and one I'm sure most who are involved in it are aware of, and if that's how they wish to conduct their business then so be it. It doesn't take a genius to realise you can undercut him by charging $50 for the same part and still sit on your ethical high horse, but then you have to ask yourself, is that ethical?

Uni holidays, you can tell huh?

Which brings up another point, if doing business ethically is primarily a strategy to make profit, is it still ethical?

[sidecar bob]

My Engineering Management lecturer told me there was some research into whether ethical businesses are any better off.

I don't remember what she said about it cause I was playing angry birds or super hexigon, but I thought you should know there is research that may or may not support your claim!

Personally I think ethical business is entirely an opinion and one I'm sure most who are involved in it are aware of, and if that's how they wish to conduct their business then so be it. It doesn't take a genius to realise you can undercut him by charging $50 for the same part and still sit on your ethical high horse, but then you have to ask yourself, is that ethical?

Uni holidays, you can tell huh?

In my industry, operating ethically results in having a huge loyal & intelligent client base, (there is absolutely no money in the shit kicker, loser dollar) the choice to not involve oneself in work or persons one would rather not deal with, plus a reliable income, & all without advertising.
Just remember, your Engineering Management Lecturer is just that, a wage earner.
Hopefully he has had twenty years prior expierence running his own business, otherwise in all reality, he is just passing on what he has read somwhere.

[Daffyd]

Reasonable margins AND HIGHER TURNOVER over a long period work far better than large margins over the short term.

The original Woolworths principle.

[Dave-]

Which brings up another point, if doing business ethically is primarily a strategy to make profit, is it still ethical?

I'd say it isn't ethical, I'd say the purest form of ethical business is one where no one is taken advantage of, so by acting ethically you're taking advantage of peoples desire to deal with an ethical brand.

I'd say a brand should be ethical for the sake of being ethical as a personal opinion of the higher management.

In my industry, operating ethically results in having a huge loyal & intelligent client base, (there is absolutely no money in the shit kicker, loser dollar) the choice to not involve oneself in work or persons one would rather not deal with, plus a reliable income, & all without advertising.
Just remember, your Engineering Management Lecturer is just that, a wage earner.
Hopefully he has had twenty years prior expierence running his own business, otherwise in all reality, he is just passing on what he has read somwhere.

she*

So you are ethical in your industry for the sake of profit? honest question, I'd like to hear from someone more experienced than myself....as I'll probably have to do an essay on this....

[sidecar bob]

I'd say it isn't ethical, I'd say the purest form of ethical business is one where no one is taken advantage of, so by acting ethically you're taking advantage of peoples desire to deal with an ethical brand.

I'd say a brand should be ethical for the sake of being ethical as a personal opinion of the higher management.



she*

So you are ethical in your industry for the sake of profit? honest question, I'd like to hear from someone more experienced than myself....as I'll probably have to do an essay on this....

I have a very long term outlook on my business.
Basically, I have targeted & treated very well, the wealthy & intellegent sector of society, believing (correctly) that they mix with similar folk, & refer my services to them at no cost to myself.
As a result, I have built up a client base of wealthy people that trust me & are quite able to afford the services I offer at the rate I charge, So, yes, I am ethical in order to attract a wealthy & intelligent client base.
In my experience, dumb people, are usually also financially challenged, and are either less aware when they are being treated unethically (or ethicaly for that matter), or assume they are always being ripped off by "rich cunts". But while they lack the brains to realise what the go is, they also lack decent friends/neighbours to refer to a business because of basic socio economics, & also lack the ability to pay for reasonable services.
Frankly, the last thing any business needs is a client base of dole bludging fuckheads.

[jellywrestler]

[QUOTE=sidecar bob;1130529981 someone nigger rich.[/QUOTE] nigger is also an anagram for ginger