Does your bike comply?

[Mental Trousers]

I'm glad to see the proposed rules on machine safety as I don't ever want to be that guy who stopped a meeting cos he covered the track in oil or whatever. Does anybodies bike already comply with all of the proposed rules?

All rules - http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/general-rules
Full list of rule changes - http://www.mnz.co.nz/docs/default-so...e.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Current rule 10.13

10.13 For sealed surface competition, all crank cases, gear box, oil drain and breather tubes open only into a catch tank, i.e. a plastic bottle or suitable container to catch oil and oil mists. Air cleaner drain lines will enter a catch bottle and be sealed. Drain plugs and oil filter retaining bolts will be wired. Spin-on cartridge type oil filters must be secured by a hose clip.

Machine safety proposed changes.

10.13
To include filler caps
Reason: The rule currently only includes drain plugs

Yes. I always took this as being a no-brainer and did it anyway.

22.6.2
Once the meeting has been declared wet, a rear facing flashing red LED light must be fitted and operational
Reason: New rule

Not yet. Will do soon.

22.8.17
For National championship meetings, all machines must be fitted with an integral lower fairing dam(Bellypan) or separate catch tray, which must be constructed to trap and hold engine oil and or coolant, with a capacity of not less than,4 strokes = 3 litres,2 strokes = 2.5 litres, with no less than 2 holes(1 front,1 rear) of 25mm dia which will be fitted with rubber bungs that may be removed in wet conditions
Reason: To limit the instance of fluid being dropped on the track surface.

Yep.

22.8.18
All lateral engine cases containing oil or water and which could contact the ground during a crash, must be protected by a second cover made from composite materials, type carbon or Kevlar, or be fitted with heavy duty crash resistant end cases made from solid metal plates and or bars made from alloy or steel all must be resistant to sudden shock
Reason: To reduce the incidence of oil or water left on the track following a crash

Yep

22.8.19
Front brake caliper mounting bolts, must be wired or pinned in the tightened position
Reason: New rule

Will do before my next race meeting

22.8.20
A front brake lever protector may be fitted
Reason: New rule

Optional but I've got one fitted anyway
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...r+gaurd&_rdc=1

22.8.21
A chainguard made of suitable material MUST be fitted in such a way to prevent trapping between the lowerchain run and the final drive sproket at the rear wheel
Reason: New rule

Been looking for one of these for a while but I haven't found one that

• doesn't involve drilling the swing arm
• doesn't look retarded

Anyone found any that fit those two criteria for a 2005 CBR600RR??

[CHOPPA]

All looks very good. Exactly how they run the bikes in Australia and they are very strict on it.

[lukemillar]

Same in the UK as well. All good stuff! The running out of fuel rule is going to be interesting!

[SWERVE]

Same in the UK as well. All good stuff! The running out of fuel rule is going to be interesting!

Only interesting when someone does it and gets a fine 'up them' . NZ races are short and tracks are even shorter. i know the fuel mass makes a difference but no excuses in my book. We might only run a 250 but we know exactly how much we run at specific lap times for specific laps. Its just a matter of testing and documenting the results............ unless its E85 (lets not go there)IMHO

[CHOPPA]

On the subject of fines, do the riders have any right to dispute without being excluded from the event, innocent until proven guilty etc etc


I was given a fine, I disagreed (naturally) but I was told that unless I paid the fine I could not compete at the event.... I paid the fine, well someone paid the fine but basically I had no say, even if I could prove that I was "innocent" I had already admitted my guilt by paying the fine.

Hypothetically if your bike broke down and the steward thought you had run out of gas and slapped you with a $400 fine. Its pay up or f*ck off?

[SWERVE]

If all bikes that did not complete the race distance for whatever reason had to taken to tech inspection (as a crashed bike would be) before returnintg to pits, then it would be able to ascertain the reason for stopping and then the fine could be issued. Youve been to Oz Choppa How do they do it there?

[Billy]

On the subject of fines, do the riders have any right to dispute without being excluded from the event, innocent until proven guilty etc etc


I was given a fine, I disagreed (naturally) but I was told that unless I paid the fine I could not compete at the event.... I paid the fine, well someone paid the fine but basically I had no say, even if I could prove that I was "innocent" I had already admitted my guilt by paying the fine.

Hypothetically if your bike broke down and the steward thought you had run out of gas and slapped you with a $400 fine. Its pay up or f*ck off?

The rulebook should clear it up for you,Chapter 7

[neil_cb125t]

10.2 Race Numbers
Race numbers will start from one, no prefix numbers are permitted. All competitors must use the number as allocated to them on their MNZ Competition Licence. All overseas based competitors, must use a letter, that letter will be allocated by MNZ upon receipt of their start permission and notify to the rider the host Clubs & commissioners.

Last July I applied for my senior MNZ licience, I had heard about the new 2 digit number rule (I have been 176 for 5 years or so), so I tried approx 20 different 2 digit numbers none of which were available. When I punched in my old number 176 it accepted it. My current MNZ licience states my race number is 176....Think MNZ needs to change the registration procedure so that next licence year this isn't possible i.e change the limitations on the online form.....then we'll let the sh*t fight over the 89 race numbers begin......cause that make sense!

[neil_cb125t]

yes billy ill email MNZ formally.........

[Billy]

Last July I applied for my senior MNZ licience, I had heard about the new 2 digit number rule (I have been 176 for 5 years or so), so I tried approx 20 different 2 digit numbers none of which were available. When I punched in my old number 176 it accepted it. My current MNZ licience states my race number is 176....Think MNZ needs to change the registration procedure so that next licence year this isn't possible i.e change the limitations on the online form.....then we'll let the sh*t fight over the 89 race numbers begin......cause that make sense!

Its all under control Neil,The girls at the office are going to remove the number option for roadracing on the licence application form,Then the new system will begin(Actually its not a new system,Its the original system updated),By the way,The 2 digit number was not a new rule last year.

[neil_cb125t]

Its all under control Neil,The girls at the office are going to remove the number option for roadracing on the licence application form,Then the new system will begin(Actually its not a new system,Its the original system updated),By the way,The 2 digit number was not a new rule last year.

oh right coolio

[CHOPPA]

If all bikes that did not complete the race distance for whatever reason had to taken to tech inspection (as a crashed bike would be) before returnintg to pits, then it would be able to ascertain the reason for stopping and then the fine could be issued. Youve been to Oz Choppa How do they do it there?

It was a hypothetical situation..... My point was the fines but Billy has pointed me in the right direction

[wayne]

whats wrong with overseas tyres ?
who imports them is that important, ?

[wharfy]

Only interesting when someone does it and gets a fine 'up them' . NZ races are short and tracks are even shorter. i know the fuel mass makes a difference but no excuses in my book. We might only run a 250 but we know exactly how much we run at specific lap times for specific laps. Its just a matter of testing and documenting the results............ unless its E85 (lets not go there)IMHO

I understand the reason for this rule - but a $400 fine is WAY over the top in my opinion. Several club events I've been to recently have a sup. reg. If you run out of fuel you are excluded from the event. I can live with that I guess

The problem isn't running out of fuel so much as what you do when you run out of fuel - same as an electrical failure, or a mechanical failure or nowdays even a software failure ?

Some places you are just in the shit - Like comming out of the last turn at Manfield - Probably going to fast to make the pit lane entry, then nowhere to go except along the pit wall ???

[Billy]

I understand the reason for this rule - but a $400 fine is WAY over the top in my opinion. Several club events I've been to recently have a sup. reg. If you run out of fuel you are excluded from the event. I can live with that I guess

The problem isn't running out of fuel so much as what you do when you run out of fuel - same as an electrical failure, or a mechanical failure or nowdays even a software failure ?

Some places you are just in the shit - Like comming out of the last turn at Manfield - Probably going to fast to make the pit lane entry, then nowhere to go except along the pit wall ???

Yip,But,That was the coroners recommendation following the deaths of Derek Hill and Phillip Harrison at Puke in 08,No action was taken following that recomendation and since then we've had a similar situation at Manfeild which resulted in another death,Not a good look,Its an easy fix,Just deal with it.