Does your bike comply?

[Billy]

Hey Billy its taken longer than i thought for the "belly pan" card to be played

Haha,Yip...Didn't see that coming,Thats why I tidied that area up with Glen way back.

[Billy]

No it's not - 22.8 refers to the ROAD RACE CHAMPIONSHIPS....so unless and until Classics and Posties have a National Championship it doesn't apply there or at club level.

If the intent was to apply it across all road racing it should have gone in Motorcycles Technical or as a separate rule in Section 22.

Nope,The intent is for any machine competing at a National points round(NZSBK),I'm sure if it needs rewording or moving to another section.The standing rules committee will deal with it accordingly.

[Drew]

I don't want an argument for a change. I'm just saying, it's a pain in the arse and wont make a blind bit of difference to the occasional brain fart of not putting a spanner to them at all. Those bikes will just be missing a tiny piece of wire...and functional brakes.

[Grumph]

Nope,The intent is for any machine competing at a National points round(NZSBK),I'm sure if it needs rewording or moving to another section.The standing rules committee will deal with it accordingly.

Ok....but the decision needs to be made, applies to all or only to some. As it's worded and placed, I don't see it applying to the support classes at national rounds who don't race for a national championship.
I understand the perceived need to match FIM regs, just want to see a better job done of applying the rule.

[Grumph]

I don't want an argument for a change. I'm just saying, it's a pain in the arse and wont make a blind bit of difference to the occasional brain fart of not putting a spanner to them at all. Those bikes will just be missing a tiny piece of wire...and functional brakes.

You got Budda and me agreeing with you...shut up and bask in the very rare enjoyment....i doubt it'll happen again.

[RobGassit]

One advantage to Lock wiring is that it can be seen to be correctly fastened by rider and scrutineers at a glance.

[Maido]

Good reason for lockwiring caliper bolts. I have heard at least 3 stories (actually more like nightmares) from prominent NZ racers past and present who have had bolts come out while racing. And we all saw Stroudy's caliper hanging off a few years back. Mistakes happen, especially under pressure.

If you run the rule specifically as something like: you drill the bolts, insert small R clips into said holes and run lock wire between them (it should be done this specific way).
Doing it this way does 2 thing, firstly even if the bolts aren't correctly tightened the won't turn any more as the arrangement of the R clips and lock wire will prevent them turning. (also hard wiring the bolts in means you have to cut the wire each time, R clips make install and removal much quicker)
Secondly you are done changing your wheel in a hurry in time for that next session and you look down and see your lockwire there, whoops I had forgotten to tighten the brakes, so it works like a reminder as well. It takes 3 seconds to install the lockwire.

It really doesn't matter if your a great mechanic and use a torque wrench (good for you though), if you have a guy who has not much mechanical sense and is working on his/her own bike it is easy to forget. It takes 5 minutes to drill the four holes and it could save alot of drama.

[RobGassit]

Haha,Yip...Didn't see that coming,Thats why I tidied that area up with Glen way back.

I thought you only responded to enquiries through the official MNZ channels or on the MNZ Website.

[Billy]

One advantage to Lock wiring is that it can be seen to be correctly fastened by rider and scrutineers at a glance.

Yip,

Funnily enough the rest of the world think it's a good idea,Apparently theyre all uninformed????

Theres always going to be a group of people who will rubbish any ideas implemented and they appear to be the same group time and again,Quite funny really.The best part is when they actually turn up at the track with their MNZ jackets on and start disrupting the officials actually doing the job,Golf anybody?

[RobGassit]

Yip,

Funnily enough the rest of the world think it's a good idea,Apparently theyre all uninformed????

Theres always going to be a group of people who will rubbish any ideas implemented and they appear to be the same group time and again,Quite funny really.The best part is when they actually turn up at the track with their MNZ jackets on and start disrupting the officials actually doing the job,Golf anybody?

Who in their right mind would voluntarily wear an MNZ jacket?

[Billy]

Who in their right mind would voluntarily wear an MNZ jacket?

Not me,But then again I wouldn't wear a Policemans uniform either

[FROSTY:Me]

Last July I applied for my senior MNZ licience, I had heard about the new 2 digit number rule (I have been 176 for 5 years or so), so I tried approx 20 different 2 digit numbers none of which were available. When I punched in my old number 176 it accepted it. My current MNZ licience states my race number is 176....Think MNZ needs to change the registration procedure so that next licence year this isn't possible i.e change the limitations on the online form.....then we'll let the sh*t fight over the 89 race numbers begin......cause that make sense!

I'm happy to stand corrected here mon (he says grabbing for his 09 rule book) But isn't your math a fair bit out?
Allowing that the first 10 numbers in each National class arent available that leaves 89 numbers PER CLASS Which means 89 times however national classes there are that year.
Anyhoo its a fair few more than 89

[FROSTY:Me]

I like all the proposed rule changes. It all looks like just plain common sense stuff to me.
Why wouldn't you use case savers? Why not r clip your caliper bolts?Why not fit a shark fin.

The ONLY question I would raise is the running out of fuel rule.
In the case of a race restart 2-4 laps into the race would the current situation stand or would competitors be allowed a splash and dash pitstop?
Also would that rule encompass outlaps after flag drop?

[Drew]

Yip,

Funnily enough the rest of the world think it's a good idea,Apparently theyre all uninformed????

Theres always going to be a group of people who will rubbish any ideas implemented and they appear to be the same group time and again,Quite funny really.The best part is when they actually turn up at the track with their MNZ jackets on and start disrupting the officials actually doing the job,Golf anybody?

Fuck it, clearly it really is impossible to have a discussion on here without words being put in ones mouth.

I'll toddle off and be disruptive someplace else.

[manxkiwi]

Just throwing this into the 'pot': Has anyone heard of using silcone sealant on fastners? It seems a wee blob between the head of the fastner and the solid part it's mounting to is as good as lockwiring! I was very surprised myself, but the guy in our garage at the TT got scutineered and raced with such. Apparently many others do too.

Just sayin', that's all.