Boston bombing

[Edbear]

The Oliver Stone history of the USA last night raised the interesting point that most countries don't know the Western free election, and with that the right to question, system. You may say it is a basic human right but how many actually enjoy it. Questioning authority is a basic human condition but only free western style governments tend to even pay lip service to allowing it. The removal of the freedom to question tends to lead, eventually, to revolution.

Watch North Korea...

[oneofsix]

Watch North Korea...

I am, but what about Syria et al

Waht worries me more about our freedoms are cases like this
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/di...erreach-claims

Seem a good idea on the surface but it is how far they reach. He took publicly available data and made it more well known, the prosecution should be against AT&T for allowing the data to be publicly available but AT&T are the governments mates and have deep pocket.

Wikileaks is another one that we should be watching.

[Edbear]

I am, but what about Syria et al

Very messy and I can understand the reluctance of the US to get involved. Nobody is going to come out unscathed from that, it'll be another Iraq.

[oneofsix]

Very messy and I can understand the reluctance of the US to get involved. Nobody is going to come out unscathed from that, it'll be another Iraq.

funny you should mention Iraq. Why did they pick on Iraq and not Iran which was more threatening to the USA? Was it because they had already had a bloody nose in Iran?
Gas attacks on citizens was one of the excuses in Iraq so why so slow on Syira? Don't they have oil reserves?
Why did they go into Iraq when North Korea was as big a threat at that stage and they already had a declare war in Korea? N. Korea has since shown it did have the nuclear program raq was accused of. Again no oil? A trade route to China with South Korean factories in North Korea providing an back door source of technology into China perhaps?
You have to keep questioning or before you know it you will be going to die because some nobody of a bastard of a supposed royal was shot in a place you have hardly heard of (WW1 in case you miss it)

[Edbear]

funny you should mention Iraq. Why did they pick on Iraq and not Iran which was more threatening to the USA? Was it because they had already had a bloody nose in Iran?
Gas attacks on citizens was one of the excuses in Iraq so why so slow on Syira? Don't they have oil reserves?
Why did they go into Iraq when North Korea was as big a threat at that stage and they already had a declare war in Korea? N. Korea has since shown it did have the nuclear program raq was accused of. Again no oil? A trade route to China with South Korean factories in North Korea providing an back door source of technology into China perhaps?
You have to keep questioning or before you know it you will be going to die because some nobody of a bastard of a supposed royal was shot in a place you have hardly heard of (WW1 in case you miss it)

The US had to take Saddam out as he was becoming a real problem, not just over oil, but his sadisitc brutality was such that they couldn't ignore him any longer. Similar with Syria.

[oneofsix]

The US had to take Saddam out as he was becoming a real problem, not just over oil, but his sadisitc brutality was such that they couldn't ignore him any longer. Similar with Syria.

Yeah so much more so than the like of Robert Mugabe, and "Our Dear Leader" etc.

[gwigs]

The US had to take Saddam out as he was becoming a real problem, not just over oil, but his sadisitc brutality was such that they couldn't ignore him any longer. Similar with Syria.

Dont forget his WMDs....I believe he had millions of pressure cookers..which are WMDs when in the hands of Muslims..
I never realised till now that I had a WMD in my cupboards...

[oneofsix]

Dont forget his WMDs....I believe he had millions of pressure cookers..which are WMDs when in the hands of Muslims..
I never realised till now that I had a WMD in my cupboards...

Gee I thought they had only included pressure cookers as WMDs after they couldn't find any larger WMDs in Sadam's baby food factories

[gwigs]

Tony Blair vindicated after pressure cooker categorised as WMD
http://newsthump.com/2013/04/23/tony...orised-as-wmd/

[Banditbandit]

funny you should mention Iraq. Why did they pick on Iraq and not Iran which was more threatening to the USA? Was it because they had already had a bloody nose in Iran?

The US had to take Saddam out as he was becoming a real problem, not just over oil, but his sadisitc brutality was such that they couldn't ignore him any longer. Similar with Syria.

yeah .. Geo W had to prove he had bigger balls than his father by killing Saddam Insane ...

[Edbear]

Dont forget his WMDs....I believe he had millions of pressure cookers..which are WMDs when in the hands of Muslims..
I never realised till now that I had a WMD in my cupboards...

I've got a slow cooker and a big stainless pot, but no pressure. I guess I'm safe then.

Yeah so much more so than the like of Robert Mugabe, and "Our Dear Leader" etc.

Robert Mugabe is a puzzle, I'd like to be the proverbial fly on the wall when they are discussing the African situation.

[oneofsix]

I've got a slow cooker and a big stainless pot, but no pressure. I guess I'm safe then.

Same

Robert Mugabe is a puzzle, I'd like to be the proverbial fly on the wall when they are discussing the African situation.

It relatively easy;
1/ He's black in an ex-colonial nation, any interference by the "white" nations will be portrayed as racist
2/ his country has nothing to take. More importantly what it does have they can more easily take whilst he is still in power.

[Edbear]

Same

It relatively easy;
1/ He's black in an ex-colonial nation, any interference by the "white" nations will be portrayed as racist
2/ his country has nothing to take. More importantly what it does have they can more easily take whilst he is still in power.

You may be right there. White despots they can deal to, black one's may open a whole can of worms no-one wants.

[Banditbandit]

Robert Mugabe is a puzzle, I'd like to be the proverbial fly on the wall when they are discussing the African situation.

It relatively easy;
1/ He's black in an ex-colonial nation, any interference by the "white" nations will be portrayed as racist
2/ his country has nothing to take. More importantly what it does have they can more easily take whilst he is still in power.

It's even easier .. Mugabe is insane ... just like many other African dictators ... He may once have been a great man ... but power attracts the corruptible ... and then the corruptible go insane ...

[oneofsix]

It's even easier .. Mugabe is insane ... just like many other African dictators ... He may once have been a great man ... but power attracts the corruptible ... and then the corruptible go insane ...

What Mugbe is is the easy bit, what they are not doing about him and why not at the time they invaded Iraq was the question