Baroness Thatcher dies overnight

[oldrider]

The fact that it (climate change) is real has never really been in question, it is the "who why and what" that has mostly been in dispute!

[Brian d marge]

IMHO
Doesn't really matter if climate change is real or not , as the solutions are pretty much win win anyway
Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

IMHO
Doesn't really matter if climate change is real or not , as the solutions are pretty much win win anyway
Stephen

What solution? charge for carbon credits? yeah top marks for that bollocks.

[oldrider]

What solution? charge for carbon credits? yeah top marks for that bollocks.

Plus one to that! .... Another Nick Smith fumble!

[Brian d marge]

Plus one to that! .... Another Nick Smith fumble!

not one of the better solutions , but still better than nowt

Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

not one of the better solutions , but still better than nowt

Stephen

No it's not.
A company is charged for pollution so passes that cost onto end user. end user pays more, company is doing nothing different.

we still have the same pollution but now it costs us more.

[Brian d marge]

No it's not.
A company is charged for pollution so passes that cost onto end user. end user pays more, company is doing nothing different.

we still have the same pollution but now it costs us more.

if that is true then that is bad ,

in the main , my original statement still stands

Stephen

[oldrider]

I support your freedom to choose and be wrong so long as I am free to choose and be right!

[Clockwork]

This is the thread that keeps on giving.

Every day I log on, click to Rant or Rave and once again I'm reminded...


"Baroness Thatcher dies overnight"

[Brian d marge]

I support your freedom to choose and be wrong so long as I am free to choose and be right!

"
whose freedom are we talking about , because my "right" , is hand crafted by the finest Japanese craftsman and tends to be better than SAE 1010 wire used in stock control

Stephen

[Berries]

This is the thread that keeps on giving.

Every day I log on, click to Rant or Rave and once again I'm reminded...


"Baroness Thatcher dies overnight"

It does need the occasional bump though.

[Robert Taylor]

It does need the occasional bump though.

Yes, but it has strayed offthe core subject somewhat. Its also of note that no-one has been prepared to answer my ''what if ?'' question. I.e ''What if The Labour government in the UK had been re-elected to power in 79?'' ( instead of electing Maggie and therefore business as usual ) My friends on the left( who if you remove some of the emotion provide some plausible arguments ) have gone strangely silent

[oldrider]

Yes, but it has strayed offthe core subject somewhat. Its also of note that no-one has been prepared to answer my ''what if ?'' question. I.e ''What if The Labour government in the UK had been re-elected to power in 79?'' ( instead of electing Maggie and therefore business as usual ) My friends on the left( who if you remove some of the emotion provide some plausible arguments ) have gone strangely silent

Obviously they are silent because you have answered your own question and there's nothing more to say!

[mashman]

Yes, but it has strayed offthe core subject somewhat. Its also of note that no-one has been prepared to answer my ''what if ?'' question. I.e ''What if The Labour government in the UK had been re-elected to power in 79?'' ( instead of electing Maggie and therefore business as usual ) My friends on the left( who if you remove some of the emotion provide some plausible arguments ) have gone strangely silent

I am politically agnostic. You may class my views as being left, but that's only coz you're leaning to the right . What would have happened. The right would have had to have waited another 4 to 7 years to put their plans into action. Meanwhile those who advise govt departments would have advised govt departments to do what was necessary for industry. We may not have seen Utility privatisation, but we would have certainly had some form of privatisation. Some unions would have had a brief stay of execution and we may well have seen the UK car industry survive (if only for a little longer). I think it would have been very much business as usual, borrowing would have remained relatively constant and communities would have been less decimated. The GFC would have started 4 to 7 years later. Having said that, elections are rigged anyway so it's a moot point .

[Robert Taylor]

I am politically agnostic. You may class my views as being left, but that's only coz you're leaning to the right . What would have happened. The right would have had to have waited another 4 to 7 years to put their plans into action. Meanwhile those who advise govt departments would have advised govt departments to do what was necessary for industry. We may not have seen Utility privatisation, but we would have certainly had some form of privatisation. Some unions would have had a brief stay of execution and we may well have seen the UK car industry survive (if only for a little longer). I think it would have been very much business as usual, borrowing would have remained relatively constant and communities would have been less decimated. The GFC would have started 4 to 7 years later. Having said that, elections are rigged anyway so it's a moot point .

Yes, my thoughts on it would be that the inevitable pain would have just been delayed and then been appreciably worse to get the UK back onto a sound financial footing. Almost certainly there would have been no attempt to retake the Falklands, making the UK an even bigger laughing stock. Galtieri certainly picked the wrong British priminister to take on.