MotoGP 2013

[Crasherfromwayback]

I dunno.

I think a lot of what went on at Jerez was to do with tyres and the track temperatures. Lorenzo had a go at Bridgestone as did another rider - may have been Crutchlow? They were unhappy with the available tyres.

Rossi didn't whinge particularly but said that tyres would decide the outcome of the race. On the Yamaha the hard tyres had insufficient grip, the soft tyres had grip but wouldn't last.

And last year, they changed the tyres and they didn't work for the Hondas. Tough titties then wannit? Just Stoner whinging I guess.

[speights_bud]

Hi all,

I'm looking at going to Phillip Island for the GP in October. Last time I went was in 2010 and this time i want to see if i can go (with probably 2 others at this stage) and work as a track Marshal.

I know this has been done in the past, i remember seeing the application form in the Vic Club Oily Rag some years ago. Does anyone know someone who has done it and the channels to go through? short of e-mailing Motorcycling Australia directly google hasn't really helped me much further.

I don't know what qualifications they do or don't require but i do have plenty of experience doing bike recovery and flagging here in NZ here.

Any leads in the right direction or someone to contact would be greatly appreciated

Cheers

Paddy

[Brett]

Oil to the surface of the track? That's not something I've heard of before.

Yeah, sounded like BS to me too.

[Dave-]

Go back and have a look at the screen grab pic I posted. No way it's anything other than a clean safe pass. Lorenzo's fault 100%.

No one crashed, can't have been that dangerous.

I was going to explain why you were wrong but I'll just agree with you instead seeing as that is what you want.

You are right.

Tyres were interesting though, definitely not "oil coming to the surface". Instead I imagine the chemistry behind the rubber bonding in the tyre is hideously complex, obviously the track temperatures exceeded the operating conditions of the rubber compound they currently use, which is fair enough I guess, you cant just whip up a batch of GP tyres in a few minutes.

[carbonhed]

Go back and have a look at the screen grab pic I posted. No way it's anything other than a clean safe pass. Lorenzo's fault 100%.

Except that Marquez isn't even remotely going to make the corner... it's just another wild arsed lunge like his previous effort. The only way it works is if he actually hits Lorenzo. Lorenzo should have shut the door and he should have just let him fly past when he didn't... but FUCK Marquez!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crutchlow again reports no new parts, just going round and round during Mondays test. But then he was going quite quick.

Then he's talking shit. He tried the new frame, but claims he didn't notice any real improvements.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I was going to explain why you were wrong but I'll just agree with you instead seeing as that is what you want.
You are right.
.

No. Far rather hear why you think I'm wrong.

Except that Marquez isn't even remotely going to make the corner... it's just another wild arsed lunge like his previous effort. The only way it works is if he actually hits Lorenzo. Lorenzo should have shut the door and he should have just let him fly past when he didn't... but FUCK Marquez!

Bullshit. No way he would've even made the kitty litter. Fuck no pleasing some of you cunts. You claim the racing is boring, then when someone actually rides like the heady days of old you squeal like bitches! FFS. And you claim to be a Simo fan? lolololololol He was so safe.

[BMWST?]

Hi all,

I'm looking at going to Phillip Island for the GP in October. Last time I went was in 2010 and this time i want to see if i can go (with probably 2 others at this stage) and work as a track Marshal.

I know this has been done in the past, i remember seeing the application form in the Vic Club Oily Rag some years ago. Does anyone know someone who has done it and the channels to go through? short of e-mailing Motorcycling Australia directly google hasn't really helped me much further.

I don't know what qualifications they do or don't require but i do have plenty of experience doing bike recovery and flagging here in NZ here.

Any leads in the right direction or someone to contact would be greatly appreciated

Cheers

Paddy

i might be able to help..watch for a PM

[carbonhed]

No. Far rather hear why you thing I'm wrong.




Bullshit. No way he would've even made the kitty litter. Fuck no pleasing some of you cunts. You claim the racing is boring, then when someone actually rides like the heady days of old you squeal like bitches! FFS. And you claim to be a Simo fan? lolololololol He was so safe.

It's a fucking loooong way to the kitty litter so maybe not.

Simo was cool and funny and raced like a nutbar. Marquez is sociopathic... a very fast sociopath for sure but a sociopath nonetheless... I'd lurv to see Crutchlow nut him. :-)

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's a fucking loooong way to the kitty litter so maybe not.

Simo was cool and funny and raced like a nutbar. Marquez is sociopathic... a very fast sociopath for sure but a sociopath nonetheless... I'd lurv to see Crutchlow nut him. :-)

Yeah have they moved it back a bit from the day Rossi introduced Gibernau to it?

This is true...but as I've always said...I don't give a shit. I just wanna see some awesome race action. Gotta love the way he rides the bike. Unlike Lorenzo and Pedro..he's all action. I love that.

[puddytat]

Crutchlow is only going to get 2 chances at "nutting" MM .....taking him out in the first corner or if MM has to start from the rear of the grid.
Even then he'd be on Crutchlows arse by 1/2 way.

[tail_end_charlie]

After looking at the replays of the move by Marc over and over again.....................I can't see how Jorge can really complain about anything.

• Jorge was very wide on entry, probably anticipating MM to be way back since he had re-passed him after MM first lunge a corner or two before.

• MM was close enough to fairly make the lunge for the wide open doorway that Jorge left for him.

• MM was ahead of Jorge when by the time that Jorge wanted to turn-in, to the point that Jorge should have seen him (you can see MM in Jorge on-board footage, so Jorge had to of seen him). In fact, you can see in the footage that Jorge pulls in his knee, and stands the bike up a little when he first see's MM, well before they touch. To me this says that he reacted in surprise, instinctively pulling his leg in, but otherwise freezing on the bike. Normally a typical rookie mistake, and not something that I would have ever thought to see Jorge do, but sometimes shit happens.

• The idea that MM was using Jorge as a berm seems pretty damn ridiculous to me. MM was already using at least 95% of the available traction from the tires in braking and starting to turn-in for the corner. The idea that he could purposely bounce off Jorge and not low-side is pretty damn wild.

• Also, the idea that MM was going in so hot that he wasn't going to make the corner and end up in the kitty litter is completely unfounded. Looks to me like he was fractions of a second away from making his turn-in when Jorge hit him. He had already pulled in his leg-dangle, had his foot on the peg and body transitioning to his extreme hang-off position. The impact of Jorge hitting him meant that he had to hesitate for a second to let the bike settle before he could turn-in. If Jorge hadn't hit him, he probably would have made the corner sooner and tighter. Even so, there was still plenty of room for Jorge to make it around the turn without having to go off track, and he probably wouldn't have had to cross the white line into the paved runoff area if he hadn't hit MM.

However, before this Lorenzo corner incident, MM was doing some pretty wild (and looked a hell of a lot more dangerous to me) braking off the front straight into turn 1. About three or four times he came within inches of clipping the back of Jorge's bike, and most likely both of them would have come to grief if that had happened. I saw some comments alluding to the possibility that Jorge was brake checking MM, but I couldn't see any sign of that. MM was just braking later, harder and a lot more wildly then Jorge was.

[tail_end_charlie]

Also am getting more and more impressed with Cal's riding as this season goes on. (Not to mention he has more personality then half the paddock put together.) He is definitely proving himself to be the best of the rest. Not only in outright speed, but more importantly in consistency and maturity. Two 4ths and a 5th so far while showing the potential to take the fight to the 4 aliens. He is still making those 1 or 2 unforced errors in a race that is right now keeping him from fighting for the podium, but he seems (so far this year) to still be keeping it rubber side down. For the most part he has the speed, and his lapping consistency seems to be only a step or two down on Jorge, and roughly the same or better then Rossi. The biggest thing that seems to be holding him up is his passing of slower riders. Both Rossi and Jorge (Dani and MM as well) seem to have the ability to pass someone almost as soon as they come up them, while Cal gets stuck behind for a lap or two or more and looses touch with the front runners.

Overall I think he is going to do better, and really threaten for podiums and wins, much more so then Bautista or Bradl. Never been much of a Bautista fan, and Bradl has been pretty disappointing so far this year.

OH yeah, and big Kudo's to Espargaro. Wouldn't it be great if he switched bikes with some balding little brit kid???

[merv]

Why all the analysis, lets just enjoy the racing as now we've finally got some?

All the dufus types squealing about MM, what did you expect him to do? - say "hey George you've gone a bit wide, just come on back in a bit and I'll wait behind you otherwise it wouldn't be fair if I passed you when you've made a mistake".

Like Agostini, Hailwood, Sheene, Roberts, Rainey, Doohan or Rossi would have been so polite let alone our old favourites Kocinski and crasher's ex Stoner.

[tail_end_charlie]

Why all the analysis, lets just enjoy the racing as now we've finally got some?

All the dufus types squealing about MM, what did you expect him to do? - say "hey George you've gone a bit wide, just come on back in a bit and I'll wait behind you otherwise it wouldn't be fair if I passed you when you've made a mistake".

Like Agostini, Hailwood, Sheene, Roberts, Rainey, Doohan or Rossi would have been so polite let alone our old favourites Kocinski and crasher's ex Stoner.

Oh I did enjoy it. I thought it was great! I am surprised that so many people that have complained about how boring and processional MotoGP has been lately have jumped up and criticized a move that made things interesting in the last lap. Sure as hell want more 'racers' out there instead of 'marching band' participants.