The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[mashman]

If the Greens where ever going to be a disappointment for me, then they've shown their political colours today.

"The Government may offer New Zealand First a deal in order to get support for its controversial spying agency - and the Greens say they will vote for it if they get offered similar concessions.". Oversight ... spy's spying on the spy's? Give me a fuckin break. Yup, disappointing.

Given that this report from yesterday said

"Normally if you stuff up you get penalised or have restrictions placed on you. John Key has gone the other way by rewarding incompetence at the GCSB with a greater right to spy," Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman said."

[oneofsix]

they are just telling it like it is. It is ok to spy on other NZers as long as they can check it is not their mates that are being spyed on. Yes it is their true colours but no real surprise as to what they are.

[Banditbandit]

The Greens arer selling out our right NOT to be spied on by our Government ...

No price is acceptable ... if the Greens go down this path they will never get my vote again !!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

[mashman]

The Greens arer selling out our right NOT to be spied on by our Government ...

No price is acceptable ... if the Greens go down this path they will ever get my vot again !!!

Agreed. Here's me thinking that the Greens where generally human beings that where "part-time" politicians, not vice versa.

and I cannot spread again

[mashman]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

That shit use to mean fuck all to me. I'm glad that times are changing.

[BoristheBiter]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

what essential liberty will be given up?

[Brian d marge]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

oh boy are those words coming back to haunt the average kiwi

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

what essential liberty will be given up?

try sticking your head up , and see what happens

examples ?

my old mum being pulled aside in the U s of an A and given the run down ,,,,,because shes a union member, she is 70 and she was given a good questioning !

try saying that America is the great satan ...,,or not following IMF directives......thats an unexplained plane crash ......

try not paying taxes ( yes; student loans are "a con tax" )

try building a house ! ( hey I want to build an "earth ship" out of used tyres ......)

try removing oneself from society , ie going self sufficient and see how far you get .....

try buying the nieghbours goat a beer and ,,,no wait thats a different forum .....my bad sorry

stephen

[BoristheBiter]

try sticking your head up , and see what happens

examples ?

my old mum being pulled aside in the U s of an A and given the run down ,,,,,because shes a union member, she is 70 and she was given a good questioning !

try saying that America is the great satan ...,,or not following IMF directives......thats an unexplained plane crash ......

try not paying taxes ( yes; student loans are "a con tax" )

try building a house ! ( hey I want to build an "earth ship" out of used tyres ......)

try removing oneself from society , ie going self sufficient and see how far you get .....

try buying the nieghbours goat a beer and ,,,no wait thats a different forum .....my bad sorry

stephen

Yeah......na that's just bollocks.
Please come back before you start drinking again.

And FYI we are talking NZ not anywhere else.

[Banditbandit]

Let's see .. try the Aziz Choudry/Dacvid Small and the SIS case ...

The SIS got caught with their pants down on that one ...

http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/choudry.htm

http://www.converge.org.nz/watchdog/94/7david.htm

Go here and read the "public profile" section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zea...igence_Service

Not hard to find stuff if you bother to look ..

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not hard to find stuff if you bother to look ..

yeppers. Its a police state already, but most people are in prisons built of debt or greed and dont see it. (I am MR Akzle)

[Banditbandit]

Don't forget the bars built by the church, the walls built by education (fuck it - I work in that sector!!!) ... and the maintenance by the propaganda system (hiding itself as the News Media ...)

[BoristheBiter]

yeppers. Its a police state already, but most people are in prisons built of debt or greed and dont see it. (I am MR Akzle)

and you would know what a police state was of course. tui add me thinks.
If it was there would be no lawyers......not that it would be such a bad thing.

Don't forget the bars built by the church, the walls built by education (fuck it - I work in that sector!!!) ... and the maintenance by the propaganda system (hiding itself as the News Media ...)

Fuck me and you guys call everyone else sheep.

Just believe any old propaganda shit.
As long as it is anti-anything you guys swallow it hook line and sinker.

At least the aluminium foil company's make something out of it.

The walls and bars you believe are there are of your own making not anyone else's

[Banditbandit]

The walls and bars you believe are there are of your own making not anyone else's

Naaa ... I smashed them down years ago .. now I dont believe anything - follow no propoganda .... especially not the leftwing bullshit propoganda - they are not even good at it ...