The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[HenryDorsetCase]

I call BULLSHIT !!!!

Arthur Allan Thomas had nothing to hide .. but events proved he had good reason to fear ... Bill Sutch was spied on by the SIS .. and proven innocent in courts (had a lot to fear didn't he) ... but he died labelled a spy because TPTB refused to say the SIS got it wrong ... Kim.com would appear to have nothing to hide .. but he had everything to fear as well (even if he didn't know it at the time) ... David Small and Aziz Choudry had nothing to hide .. but again had everything to fear ...

"Nothing to hide nothing to worry about" a bullshit line used to support attacks on our freedom

I happen to like my freedom and privacy and resent any invasion ... whether it is from the SIS, GCSB or spyware on the net ...

I concur.

People need to look up what fascism actually is. because we are living it. bit by bit, day by day.

and bread and circuses distractions (for example: lead story on the news last night Aaron Dickhead Gilmore: no mention of Eric Holder (US Attorney General) over her to heavy djonkey and the lumpy minions into line and shore up their support for the RIAA's attack on the citizens of another so-called sovereign nation. Sure, we've got nothing to worry about. Except our thought crimes.

Orwell was right.

[Usarka]

I call BULLSHIT !!!!

Arthur Allan Thomas had nothing to hide .. but events proved he had good reason to fear ... Bill Sutch was spied on by the SIS .. and proven innocent in courts (had a lot to fear didn't he) ... but he died labelled a spy because TPTB refused to say the SIS got it wrong ... Kim.com would appear to have nothing to hide .. but he had everything to fear as well (even if he didn't know it at the time) ... David Small and Aziz Choudry had nothing to hide .. but again had everything to fear ...

"Nothing to hide nothing to worry about" a bullshit line used to support attacks on our freedom

I happen to like my freedom and privacy and resent any invasion ... whether it is from the SIS, GCSB or spyware on the net ...

Ummmm, i agree hence the east german stasi logo i included in my post...

[mashman]

No, you just posted more bollocks conspiracy's.

So what is the reason you would rather have your ISP (an uncontrolled private business, only in it to make money that you always say you hate) spy on you than a controlled organisation?

3:25, that's a quarter to 9 to you and no, donkeys wearing sunny's can't rely on arctic winds to provide evidence that yesterday was Tuesday.

[Brian d marge]

3:25, that's a quarter to 9 to you and no, donkeys wearing sunny's can't rely on arctic winds to provide evidence that yesterday was Tuesday.

sh1t , was yesterday Tuesday

damn

Stephen

[Banditbandit]

Ummmm, i agree hence the east german stasi logo i included in my post...

Oh ??? Sorry - subtlety is so unexpected in KBer ... it's easy to miss ..

[BoristheBiter]

3:25, that's a quarter to 9 to you and no, donkeys wearing sunny's can't rely on arctic winds to provide evidence that yesterday was Tuesday.

So that would be no, you have nothing again, so just post gibberish and hope everyone goes away.

Well guess what dildo ball bag, I aren't going anywhere.

so again, what is the reason you would rather have your ISP (an uncontrolled private business, only in it to make money that you always say you hate) spy on you than a controlled organisation?

[BoristheBiter]

I happen to like my freedom and privacy and resent any invasion ... whether it is from the SIS, GCSB or spyware on the net ...

Good luck with that.

[mashman]

So that would be no, you have nothing again, so just post gibberish and hope everyone goes away.

Well guess what dildo ball bag, I aren't going anywhere.

so again, what is the reason you would rather have your ISP (an uncontrolled private business, only in it to make money that you always say you hate) spy on you than a controlled organisation?

I have no issues with my ISP doing so as long as they're only looking for illegal activity and not viewing my emails... then sure, they can pass the information to the Police and the Police only.

Maybe you'll be lucid enough to understand the second time around. I've added a wee hint for you too.

[mashman]

sh1t , was yesterday Tuesday

damn

Stephen

Nope. May I suggest you get a new donkey and/or remove the sunny's from the one you currently have as the wind was blowing from the south at a quarter past ninety six which turns out to mean it was a Wednesday.

[Flip]

We wanted a centre right goverment, NZ voted for them then you all bitch and moan when you get the that the right is voting more power to the people in power.

Don't vote these pricks in next time, OK!.

[Winston001]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

To which we can add Juvenal's famous warning -

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? = Who watches the Watchers?

I agree that we should not carelessly hand over access to our private lives to unseen technologists. People outside the police.

Nevertheless we live in complex societies where a few individuals have the ability to cause great harm to many innocent people. The 9/11 deliberate crashing of aircraft into buildings (only approx 15 determined anarchists involved) and the recent Boston bombing carried out by 2 people illustrate just how vulnerable ordinary citizens are. Two people who managed to bring a major city to a standstill.

If increased technological surveillance is one of the information strands which lowers the risk of your or my children being killed while walking the street - then its a price I am willing to pay.

[Ocean1]

(only approx 15 determined anarchists involved)

Smells like a quote.

Care to reveal who's definition of anarchist we're using?

[Winston001]

LOL only mine.

Nah. Its just that I detest the word terrorist because it is so overused and emotionally loaded. These guys were anarchists in the sense they wanted to destroy the social order of the USA. In fact of the West (as they see it).

We used to term such people guerillas but that is old school and confusing for modern shallow journalists.

[BoristheBiter]

Maybe you'll be lucid enough to understand the second time around. I've added a wee hint for you too.

Your such a fucking moron, your ISP is doing it now and selling off the details to whom ever pays for it and they don't need any permission from anyone.

[Ocean1]

Nah. Its just that I detest the word terrorist because it is so overused and emotionally loaded. These guys were anarchists in the sense they wanted to destroy the social order of the USA. In fact of the West (as they see it).

The typical anarchist is an equal oportunity anti-state advocate. So it that case terrorist is correct, over used and abused as it is.

If labels matter I'd wear rational anarchist. Mate Heinline had some faults but his basic tenets were sound.