The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[Banditbandit]

Parenting isn't a full time job?

Yeah .. it is . that's why there is a DPB ...

Sadly that's what the parents of lice-riddled, school-sore scabbed, hungry, underclothed kids seem to think...

Yeah ... and those children grow up to be their parents ... jyust like others do ... the sons and daughters of the bankers, teachers, etc etc ..

[BoristheBiter]

Yes I can put a spin on those 14 points. But within that spin there is a large element or truth. And as highlighted brilliantly by Oscar, no reason to go looking to see if that is the case given that you simply don't believe that it could be possible to consider NZ to be a fascist run country. It ticks a lot of them boxes in one way or another when taking NZ's role as an equal country in a global community into consideration... but as you point out, only if you decide to question NZ in that light.

You chose not to. Fair enough. Remain a sheeple.

Like you say YOU put a spin on those points to suit your own agenda.
You only find truth because you want to find it. like you said you only find those points IF you question in that light.
Go watch the movies 23 and you will see what you're coming across like.

You choose to, fair enough remain a loony.

[BoristheBiter]

In Sweden I believe it is considered a full time job and parents are paid for it.
They look after the children over there..

yes and they also pay 48% income tax, so which do you want?

[mashman]

Like you say YOU put a spin on those points to suit your own agenda.
You only find truth because you want to find it. like you said you only find those points IF you question in that light.
Go watch the movies 23 and you will see what you're coming across like.

You choose to, fair enough remain a loony.

No agenda. There are real aspect of real life that fit those criteria. You're the one choosing to suit an agenda.
Bullshit. You choose to decide that I am seeking a truth that isn't there. The thing is Boris, you have to ask the question first. Not just sit and accept that it is the way it is and that's the only way it can be because that's the way they've told you it is. That goes way beyond being moronic.
... your interpretation is noted and has been summarily laughed at as inconsequential due to the vital lack of critical thought you give anything.

If I'm loony, then you guys are fucked.

[HenryDorsetCase]

yes and they also pay 48% income tax, so which do you want?

do they pay VAT/GST as well?

[BoristheBiter]

do they pay VAT/GST as well?

I don't think they do hang on i'll check.......on they don't. whats the point?

[BoristheBiter]

No agenda. There are real aspect of real life that fit those criteria. You're the one choosing to suit an agenda.
Bullshit. You choose to decide that I am seeking a truth that isn't there. The thing is Boris, you have to ask the question first. Not just sit and accept that it is the way it is and that's the only way it can be because that's the way they've told you it is. That goes way beyond being moronic.
... your interpretation is noted and has been summarily laughed at as inconsequential due to the vital lack of critical thought you give anything.

If I'm loony, then you guys are fucked.

Actually HDC made me go and look when I went to make sure i had the definition correct.
Just because I choose to disagree with you doesn't make me ignorant of what's going on around me. That's more you than me.

Why? You'll never be in charge. Thank fuck for small mercy's.

[scumdog]

do they pay VAT/GST as well?

Hmmm, the only way to avoid that lot is to not buy anything..so I suspect?

Oops, didn't check what country was being refered to..doh!

[gwigs]

I don't think they do hang on i'll check.......on they don't. whats the point?

No you didn,t check did you.....25%


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

[mashman]

Actually HDC made me go and look when I went to make sure i had the definition correct.
Just because I choose to disagree with you doesn't make me ignorant of what's going on around me. That's more you than me.

Why? You'll never be in charge. Thank fuck for small mercy's.

Did I call you ignorant?

Your society is heading down the shitter because it is incapable of solving the major issues of the day. The financial system simply doesn't work if you apply any form of critical thinking to it. Bringing human nature into it is just plain naive, as there's no such thing... primarily because we are capable of changing our minds. It IS that simple. Having said that. Your refusal to apply critical thought in regard to the way we live could be considered ignorance. Perhaps you thinking that I was calling you ignorant was actually a Freudian slip.


Even if I wanted to be in charge it wouldn't just be me in charge.

[Banditbandit]

I don't think they do hang on i'll check.......on they don't. whats the point?

Because the highest rate of income tax here is not all the tax we pay .. by the time you add, petrol tax, GST, road user charges etc etc and all the taxes together it comes to quite a sum ...

If we paid that total rate just on PAYE people would scream ... but they don't becuase there are "hidden" taxes .. and all people think about is PAYE .. and ignore the other ones .. so comparing Sweden's 48% tax rate with ours is only valid if the 48% personal tax is the only tax they pay ..

It's not brain surgery ...

[Oscar]

Because the highest rate of income tax here is not all the tax we pay .. by the time you add, petrol tax, GST, road user charges etc etc and all the taxes together it comes to quite a sum ...

If we paid that total rate just on PAYE people would scream ... but they don't becuase there are "hidden" taxes .. and all people think about is PAYE .. and ignore the other ones .. so comparing Sweden's 48% tax rate with ours is only valid if the 48% personal tax is the only tax they pay ..

It's not brain surgery ...

I'm glad you're not a brain surgeon.

Sweden is one of the most taxed countries in the world at almost 50% of GDP(NZ has one of the lowest ratios in the OECD at 31%).
Not only is income tax very high, they pay VAT at between 6% & 25%.

[BoristheBiter]

No you didn,t check did you.....25%

No I got called out and clicked the submit instead on the cancel.

Did I call you ignorant?

Your society is heading down the shitter because it is incapable of solving the major issues of the day. The financial system simply doesn't work if you apply any form of critical thinking to it. Bringing human nature into it is just plain naive, as there's no such thing... primarily because we are capable of changing our minds. It IS that simple. Having said that. Your refusal to apply critical thought in regard to the way we live could be considered ignorance. Perhaps you thinking that I was calling you ignorant was actually a Freudian slip.
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No, i never said you did. was replying to your post.

"The thing is Boris, you have to ask the question first. Not just sit and accept that it is the way it is and that's the only way it can be because that's the way they've told you it is."

ig·no·rant
Adjective
Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

Maybe you should do some reading or at least look the big words before you go off half cocked.

Because the highest rate of income tax here is not all the tax we pay .. by the time you add, petrol tax, GST, road user charges etc etc and all the taxes together it comes to quite a sum ...

If we paid that total rate just on PAYE people would scream ... but they don't becuase there are "hidden" taxes .. and all people think about is PAYE .. and ignore the other ones .. so comparing Sweden's 48% tax rate with ours is only valid if the 48% personal tax is the only tax they pay ..

It's not brain surgery ...

It is still not that high here.
as has been posted in the link above they have those other taxes as well, and they are higher than ours.

[mashman]

No, i never said you did. was replying to your post.

"The thing is Boris, you have to ask the question first. Not just sit and accept that it is the way it is and that's the only way it can be because that's the way they've told you it is."

ig·no·rant
Adjective
Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

Maybe you should do some reading or at least look the big words before you go off half cocked.

Fair enough. You merely called yourself ignorant and then blamed me for it so that you could then use harsh words against my character in order to dismiss any assertion that I made in regards to your ignorance. Cunning.

[mashman]

Then there's always, you have no right to protest there because it annoys corporates and could cost us money. We don't care what you think, so we're making protesting illegal. what a fuckin pathetic breed of human being. I wish I had the words to convey just how counterproductive the financial economy is and just how counter intuitive it is in regards to the survival of human beings. Such management practices defy all logic and reason.