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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    I'm starting to think Rossi's prowess in setting up a bike might be a bit of a Dukie story...I mean he put a wall up between himself and Lorenzo when Lorenzo was only a boy. Lorenzo ended up getting the very same bike Rossi was riding to work better for him. Rossi went to Ducati and did what? He's now back on the very same bike Lorenzo has...and guess what? Hes struggling with setup issues etc... Mmmmm.
    Things certainly aren't going Rossi's way recently. However, I certainly wouldn't go writing the guy off. I'd still put money on the guy to win a race before the end of the season.

    At Le Mans he showed that he turns it up for the race. He was pushing on and got through to 3rd (I think) before he overcooked it and had a lie down.

    But the qualifying doesn't suit him at all as he'd normally do his best time around the 3rd or 4th lap, whereas the new qualifying they only get a couple of flying laps.

    I've no doubt that Jorge is the better rider. But Rossi is the better competitor, he goes harder, doesn't get intimidated by anyone and knows the head space game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    I've no doubt that Jorge is the better rider. But Rossi is the better competitor, he goes harder, doesn't get intimidated by anyone and knows the head space game.
    Yeah bit hard to get into the head of someone that's not scared of you anymore though eh! Last person he rattled was Stoner at Laguna Seca I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    But Rossi is the better competitor, he goes harder, doesn't get intimidated by anyone and knows the head space game.
    I believe you're thinking of pre 'the fall' Rossi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah bit hard to get into the head of someone that's not scared of you anymore though eh! Last person he rattled was Stoner at Laguna Seca I reckon.
    He's only going to be able to pick on the newbies like Smith now. Jorge just brushes him off, Pedro has always ignored him, Marquez gets on a bike and goes "KAWABUNGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (the Spanish equivalent), Crutchlow's too arrogant to play the game, Bradl has his own problems, Bautista is too busy trying to keep his ride and the boys at Ducati are keeping their distance.

    So there's nobody to play mind games with at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    So there's nobody to play mind games with at the moment.
    Looks a bit that way mate.

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    Bike, tyre, suspension control and electronics development is at such a level now that it almost seems like the bikes cannot be ridden the old-skool rough-house way in many respects. For instance when guys like Ben Spies / Crutchlow etc come from SBK with a "forcefull steering style" it takes them a while to learn what makes these current GP bikes tick off fast consistent laps.
    I would argue that Stoner still holds the mantle of being the most naturally agressive rider (to the bike) of the recent crop - and it seemed to work well for him.......
    MM also appears willing to ride "beyond the black-box in the back comprehension" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Looks a bit that way mate.
    95% of that shit is the media needing something to print and sell magazines.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by codgyoleracer View Post
    I would argue that Stoner still holds the mantle of being the most naturally agressive rider (to the bike) of the recent crop - and it seemed to work well for him.......
    MM also appears willing to ride "beyond the black-box in the back comprehension" as well.
    Yeah it's been said by many that they've gotta be rideen like a large 250 GP bike...and as you say, only really Stoner and MM have shown it's not the only way. Rossi is certainly able to if he'd like to too I reckon. Maybe just over hospital food at his age.

    Quote Originally Posted by codgyoleracer View Post
    95% of that shit is the media needing something to print and sell magazines.....
    Yeah but keeps us (well me anyway) entertained in the times between races eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Rossi is certainly able to if he'd like to too I reckon. Maybe just over hospital food at his age.
    Just watched the French GP, the first for the year ! (Thanks Sinful, all that stuff worked )
    I think I'll take my doubts back !
    Barring the slip off he was right there !
    Some special wet performances as I guessed , but hopefully back to our normal station for the next round.

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    I'm a Rossi fan but I have my doubts from the last races?
    I dunno if he has it he just seems a few tenths off and now he's on the yammy we know its not the Bike?

    He couldn't keep up in the previous Gp's and he fell pushing himself to hard in the wet where he was always one of the very best. Love to see him get #10 tittle, or even a win but I simply cant see it in his riding so far this season? especially with this fail in the wet?

    Sorry Rossi prove me wrong please

    Secondly I don't think he should quit either I don't have a problem with a racer climbing up through the ranks then drifting back through as long as he still loves his racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    I'm a Rossi fan but I have my doubts from the last races?
    I dunno if he has it he just seems a few tenths off and now he's on the yammy we know its not the Bike?

    He couldn't keep up in the previous Gp's and he fell pushing himself to hard in the wet where he was always one of the very best. Love to see him get #10 tittle, or even a win but I simply cant see it in his riding so far this season? especially with this fail in the wet?

    Sorry Rossi prove me wrong please

    Secondly I don't think he should quit either I don't have a problem with a racer climbing up through the ranks then drifting back through as long as he still loves his racing.
    Ummm, opening GP this season. Rossi was the fastest guy on track for pretty much the whole second half of the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Ummm, opening GP this season. Rossi was the fastest guy on track for pretty much the whole second half of the race.
    I take your point Drew
    Hopefully he can repeat it again. I really think he is one of the goat's.
    His humour, head games and pure skill over 9 championships. Waiting and hoping with baited breath but..........??
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    Read an article recently that said Yamaha need to change the M1. Having been tailored to Jorge it now favours high corner speed to the extent that it can't do anything else. On a track that doesn't favour high corner speed both Rossi and Jorge will have problems the Honda being more suitable to point and squirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Read an article recently that said Yamaha need to change the M1. Having been tailored to Jorge it now favours high corner speed to the extent that it can't do anything else. On a track that doesn't favour high corner speed both Rossi and Jorge will have problems the Honda being more suitable to point and squirt.
    Cue Jellywrestler with "point and squirt" joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Read an article recently that said Yamaha need to change the M1. Having been tailored to Jorge it now favours high corner speed to the extent that it can't do anything else. On a track that doesn't favour high corner speed both Rossi and Jorge will have problems the Honda being more suitable to point and squirt.
    Kinda like how Honda developed a teeny bike for pedro instead of something good for both him and hayden?

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