all l said was stock is best . anyone that knows me knows l only run stock in my bike and has worked fine for me at lap record pace years ago ( you did not have to reply to me at all ) so who started it?
Sorry mate. Been down the same argument when I started racing. Gapped the pro twin field and held the lead from Glen Williams for a couple laps, on a stock SV against his borrowed F3 beast. Thought it was all shit about suspension control.
Sam Love shows up on his sorted pro twin, and Glen on his own F3 bike, and I'm left wondering if the race hasn't been red flagged they're so fuckin far in front of me. Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be as good as Glen. But when we got the Ohlins in the SV, I could beat Sam easily...In his very early days
A bike on standard suspension is easy to ride faster than is expected I reckon, because soft is tactile. It isn't stable however, so the shit hits the fan when ya try and keep up with a bike that actually holds the geometry it's meant to have.
all i'm pointing out is you should get a fealy fast race time before worrying about suspension. l'v seen to meany people blow there budget and still go no good then never see them again . just funny 13 years down the track the basic fast winter time at manfeild is no faster and yet the bikes are so much better? but we all know its comes down the rider mosty.
I've made that same argument too. Got shot down in a ball of flames...AGAIN.
Sit the front end of an SV on the bump stops under brakes doing 1m17s, bog standard around Manfield. All good, did it repeatedly. Do the same thing braking a little deeper, to get the front past a door shutting Glen Williams, and things get, well, interesting.
It is safer, and cheaper in the long run to chuck $450 worth of emulators in there. Ya might not go faster straight away, but all of a sudden that same lap time is farther from the limits of the bike.
Regarding the lap times, (I'm sorry mate I've forgotten your real name or I would have inserted it here), the track was a bit better most of the time back then, and some of the current winter series superbikes are cutting 1m8s laps on a regular occasion. No cunt was doing that 13 years ago at the bloody nats!
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my best time was a 13.8 on a AMB transponder in winter on a 65 hp zxr400 and the trucks groved the track everywhere. 1.15 every winter round . l know jason m in 1998 was doing 107s, world super bike lap record in 1992 was 106.6 by doug polan. ozzy said it was a 120 hp the ducati
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