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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    .....and sifting through the evidence.
    Are you not aware that the investigation was held up for a number of months while thousands of tons of 'evidence' was sent off for recycling in Asia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    This is as good a theory as any....

    http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-referenc...xt-folder.html
    Wow, that kinda came out of left field!

    Those protocols could pertain to any number of people cults organisations etc, I used to have a few copies of it years ago.

    Actually trying to disprove and disassociate the Zionists from them gets more and more difficult for no other reason but the way they behave! (the real 1%?)

    The president of Iran is always quoting or rabbiting on about them ... they are an interesting read though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    I just cant see a reason for planting explosives in the building.....
    Then you're not thinking hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Are you not aware that the investigation was held up for a number of months while thousands of tons of 'evidence' was sent off for recycling in Asia?
    What kind of evidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Testimony of Dr. W. Gene Corley
    Senior Vice President
    CTL Engineering
    Chicago, IL
    On behalf of the
    American Society of Civil Engineer
    There has been some concern expressed by others that the work of the team
    has been hampered because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently
    been processed for recycling. This is not the case. The team has had full access to the
    scrap yards and to the site and has been able to obtain numerous samples. At this
    point there is no indication that having access to each piece of steel from the World
    Trade Center would make a significant difference to understanding the performance of
    the structures.
    http://www.asce.org/uploadedFiles/Co..._testimony.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    What kind of evidence?
    Have you got any reference to why NIST didn't do any test for the presence of thermite in the rubble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Have you got any reference to why NIST didn't do any test for the presence of thermite in the rubble?
    http://www.webcitation.org/5pvOUTcar

    12. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? The combination of thermite and sulfur (called thermate) "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."

    NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.

    The responses to questions number 2, 4, 5 and 11 demonstrate why NIST concluded that there were no explosives or controlled demolition involved in the collapses of the WTC towers.

    Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening. Separate from the WTC towers investigation, NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.

    Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC towers, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard that was prevalent in the interior partitions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    http://www.webcitation.org/5pvOUTcar

    12. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? The combination of thermite and sulfur (called thermate) "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."

    NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.

    The responses to questions number 2, 4, 5 and 11 demonstrate why NIST concluded that there were no explosives or controlled demolition involved in the collapses of the WTC towers.

    Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening. Separate from the WTC towers investigation, NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.

    Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC towers, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard that was prevalent in the interior partitions.
    So in other words, they chose not to test for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So in other words, they chose not to test for it.
    No flies on you sunshine!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    No flies on you sunshine!!
    Not on NIST either by the sounds of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Wow, that kinda came out of left field!

    Those protocols could pertain to any number of people cults organisations etc, I used to have a few copies of it years ago.

    Actually trying to disprove and disassociate the Zionists from them gets more and more difficult for no other reason but the way they behave! (the real 1%?)

    The president of Iran is always quoting or rabbiting on about them ... they are an interesting read though.
    They are arnt they!
    You are right that these could pertain to any, and thats the rub as I see it. It is a dogma that fits all. And used by many
    ..Is it Human nature? Or conditioning....
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    Nature has programed humans to compete so that's what we do.
    Conditioning decides who wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road kill View Post
    Nature has programed humans to compete so that's what we do.
    Conditioning decides who wins.
    Bullshit...
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road kill View Post
    Nature has programed humans to compete so that's what we do.
    Conditioning decides who wins.
    You old softy you...http://youtu.be/FmkRY6h0hJE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So in other words, they chose not to test for it.
    Because they would have been wasting their time

    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower
    He gave a range of numbers, based on lower and higher concentrations of the thermite formulation. His lowest figure amounted to 29,000 metric tons of thermitic explosive per tower
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08...u-must-acquit/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Then you're not thinking hard enough.
    Have you come up with a good reason for destroying that particular building using a demolition technique?
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