The role of parents in financial education

[mashman]

Fuckin morons being fuckin morons because they're seriously fuckin moronic.

As a solution for not having financial crisis, this has to rank as THE #1 most idiotic idea I've heard of yet. Well, if we're all financially literate and we all decide to save for a rainy day/for our dotage, then who the fuck is going to buy anything?

If any of you believe this is a solution for mitigating financial crashes etc... please feel free to grab a moron sticker at the door on your way out.

Einstein :-

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."

[Ocean1]

So teaching kids not to be greedy, gullible loan shark fodder is a bad idea, now.

Fuck you're getting further off the planet every day.

[mashman]

So teaching kids not to be greedy, gullible loan shark fodder is a bad idea, now.

Fuck you're getting further off the planet every day.

Kids are taught not to be greedy, yet they still turn into adults that indulge in the ever increasing practice of fucking people over for money. Fortunately the bigger ponzi running morons have the law on their side and the indoctrination of simple minded to perpetuate their schemes. The kids wouldn't have to run that gauntlet if the mechanism that is used to control the "system" wasn't there in the first place. I understand why that truth eludes you, so as promised:

[Ocean1]

The simple minded in your picture are those that think there's a way to have toys other than working for them. And those who think the problems that causes can be blamed on "the system".

You obviously jumped queues when you immigrated, this place was built on hard working crofters, the whining ingrates and petty thieves are supposed to go to Australia.

[mashman]

The simple minded in your picture are those that think there's a way to have toys other than working for them. And those who think the problems that causes can be blamed on "the system".

You obviously jumped queues when you immigrated, this place was built on hard working crofters, the whining ingrates and petty thieves are supposed to go to Australia.

Of course you can have toys without working for them. It currently happens. "The system" is pooked. It may well have served a purpose once upon a time, but it's outdated and needs to be put out to pasture and replaced with something smarter. Something where work still takes place, but it isn't the cornerstone of the day for the majority. Something where we make what needs to be made and not what we think we can sell, because making what we think we can sell ignores the future use of precious resources and the rising needs of the population (gold plated iPad for instance). Is the gold plating really required? That's 1 amongst millions of examples of resource wastage. "They system" is wholly responsible for why things are as fucked up as they are, because people are operating within (mainly) the rules that govern your beloved supply and demand. Human beings are just operating within those rules. Change the rules and human beings will operate within the new rules, no biggy.

Yup, it WAS built on the blood sweat and tears of millions of people, and we piss all over their memory... and I work hard, but also see the wastage (time/effort/uber skills) in what I do. My time and effort is wasted, but I do it because I am paid to do so and "the system" requires my effort.

[Ocean1]

When you've worked as hard as my grandfather did for the benefits he earned I'll listen to how hard done by you are.

You can start by giving all your wasted resources to whoever you think needs them, then selling everything you own and giving that away as well. Until then I'll ignore you as the hypocrite you are.

[Oscar]

Of course you can have toys without working for them. It currently happens. "The system" is pooked. It may well have served a purpose once upon a time, but it's outdated and needs to be put out to pasture and replaced with something smarter. Something where work still takes place, but it isn't the cornerstone of the day for the majority. Something where we make what needs to be made and not what we think we can sell, because making what we think we can sell ignores the future use of precious resources and the rising needs of the population (gold plated iPad for instance). Is the gold plating really required? That's 1 amongst millions of examples of resource wastage. "They system" is wholly responsible for why things are as fucked up as they are, because people are operating within (mainly) the rules that govern your beloved supply and demand. Human beings are just operating within those rules. Change the rules and human beings will operate within the new rules, no biggy.

Yup, it WAS built on the blood sweat and tears of millions of people, and we piss all over their memory... and I work hard, but also see the wastage (time/effort/uber skills) in what I do. My time and effort is wasted, but I do it because I am paid to do so and "the system" requires my effort.

Why don't you opt out then?

Beside, what right do you have to tell people how to spend their hard earned?
By your own admission you don't vote, yet you pontificate on the inter-web about changing the system.
You're an eco-fascist, one of a growing bunch of arrogant blow hards who "just know better".
Talk is cheap, come back when you've given away your possessions or STFU.

[mashman]

When you've worked as hard as my grandfather did for the benefits he earned I'll listen to how hard done by you are.

You can start by giving all your wasted resources to whoever you think needs them, then selling everything you own and giving that away as well. Until then I'll ignore you as the hypocrite you are.

I'm not hard done by... but billions of people are. Amusing that you still think I want change for me.

Ahhhhhh, get out of jail free time eh. If you don't practice what you preach then you are a hypocrite? How can I practice what I preach when what I preach requires an entire society to be doing a similar thing? My so called hypocrisy is only hypocrisy because of your foolish ideology.

[mashman]

Why don't you opt out then?

Beside, what right do you have to tell people how to spend their hard earned?
By your own admission you don't vote, yet you pontificate on the inter-web about changing the system.
You're an eco-fascist, one of a growing bunch of arrogant blow hards who "just know better".
Talk is cheap, come back when you've given away your possessions or STFU.

You mean take the easy way out and leave the rest to fend for themselves. It's that kind of attitude that lands us where we are today. And to a certain extent, the green texted man knows it too. I will fight on as I have not done my best yet. Perhaps that day will come. Although I truly hope it doesn't.

I'm not telling anyone anything. Merely offering a, more sensible imho, alternative that will give everyone the opportunity to prosper... whilst addressing the big issues that the current system has been unable to since its inception.
I do and your translation of how I go about it has been noted. However when the words hit the screen, the attitude that you infer does not accompany them.
Oh please. Try again. I'm as much of an ecofascist as you are a woman from another planet.
Again? what is it with you guys and your insistence that I have to give everything away despite me wanting a system where the same stuff will exist? You really do miss the point of how "my" system will work. Bitterly disappointing as you seem to promote yourself as being smart... which, as it turns out, you're not. You have knowledge, nothing else.

Have a sticker and welcome to that club

[Akzle]

Why don't you opt out then?

Beside, what right do you have to tell people how to spend their hard earned?
By your own admission you don't vote, yet you pontificate on the inter-web about changing the system.
You're an eco-fascist, one of a growing bunch of arrogant blow hards who "just know better".
Talk is cheap, come back when you've given away your possessions or STFU.

oh neat, the government provide the means to opt out of tax, their laws, society in general?
Pray tell, hows it done?

[puddytat]

Seems to me that you could call it a bunch of policy from any political party & in itself 'tis not a bad idea to have people think for themselves....but banksters are banksters. And its all about one thing or is it 2?
I dont think you need to give away your possesions, just free yourself from Debt . The rest is all yours. (well yeah nah)

[Oscar]

You mean take the easy way out and leave the rest to fend for themselves. It's that kind of attitude that lands us where we are today. And to a certain extent, the green texted man knows it too. I will fight on as I have not done my best yet. Perhaps that day will come. Although I truly hope it doesn't.

I'm not telling anyone anything. Merely offering a, more sensible imho, alternative that will give everyone the opportunity to prosper... whilst addressing the big issues that the current system has been unable to since its inception.
I do and your translation of how I go about it has been noted. However when the words hit the screen, the attitude that you infer does not accompany them.
Oh please. Try again. I'm as much of an ecofascist as you are a woman from another planet.
Again? what is it with you guys and your insistence that I have to give everything away despite me wanting a system where the same stuff will exist? You really do miss the point of how "my" system will work. Bitterly disappointing as you seem to promote yourself as being smart... which, as it turns out, you're not. You have knowledge, nothing else.

Have a sticker and welcome to that club

You're complaining about a suggestion that kids be taught financial literacy, then you're complaining about Ponzi schemes that rob the stupid and uneducated.
Then, after several hundred words of invective, you say you're not telling anyone anything (which is as close to the truth as you've ever come).

Dismantling the existing system is not an alternative, and due to your inability to communicate much beyond the half baked, you have nothing positive to offer.

Finally, being well informed and literate may make me smart, but I guess to be really clever, I'll have to learn how to post a sticker (which is grammatically incorrect by the way).

[Oscar]

oh neat, the government provide the means to opt out of tax, their laws, society in general?
Pray tell, hows it done?

No income, no tax.
Move somewhere where the authorities provide nothing.
Try Somalia.

[Oscar]

I'm not hard done by... but billions of people are. Amusing that you still think I want change for me.

Ahhhhhh, get out of jail free time eh. If you don't practice what you preach then you are a hypocrite? How can I practice what I preach when what I preach requires an entire society to be doing a similar thing? My so called hypocrisy is only hypocrisy because of your foolish ideology.

This gets to the nub of your mental health issues - how long have you considered yourself to be the one?
The only one in society with the answer?

We should all stop what we're doing because you say so?
I used to think you arrogant, but you're just another nutter with a Messiah Complex...

[Akzle]

No income, no tax.
Move somewhere where the authorities provide nothing.
Try Somalia.

sounds liek it involves giving a fuck. Which i dont.
Its also too far to walk.

And who gave the government authority over me?
Unfortunately, even without income, there is tax.
So how do i opt out. Practically.
(and why do you think the govt doesnt have an 'opt out' option. Hrmmmm?)