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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    sounds liek it involves giving a fuck. Which i dont.
    Its also too far to walk.

    And who gave the government authority over me?
    Unfortunately, even without income, there is tax.
    So how do i opt out. Practically.
    (and why do you think the govt doesnt have an 'opt out' option. Hrmmmm?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    sounds liek it involves giving a fuck. Which i dont.
    Its also too far to walk.

    And who gave the government authority over me?
    Unfortunately, even without income, there is tax.
    So how do i opt out. Practically.
    (and why do you think the govt doesnt have an 'opt out' option. Hrmmmm?)
    You give the Govt. authority over yourself. You don't have to earn any money if you don't want to, thereby you don't pay tax.

    You don't have to drive a car, either, that is all your choice. You don't have to do anything you don't want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    You're complaining about a suggestion that kids be taught financial literacy, then you're complaining about Ponzi schemes that rob the stupid and uneducated.
    Then, after several hundred words of invective, you say you're not telling anyone anything (which is as close to the truth as you've ever come).

    Dismantling the existing system is not an alternative, and due to your inability to communicate much beyond the half baked, you have nothing positive to offer.

    Finally, being well informed and literate may make me smart, but I guess to be really clever, I'll have to learn how to post a sticker (which is grammatically incorrect by the way).
    Ponzi schemes don't just rob the stupid and uneducated though. When someone decides to pull the money rug, even the most experienced financial gurus on the planet are left aghast. A certain Mr Greenspan springs to mind. On the face of it he was naive, in reality he knew exactly what he was doing, yet still plead ignorance. How utterly comforting.
    Invective. Nice word to hide behind when the truth is a bit too close to home for ones liking.

    When did I say I was going to dismantle the system? I'm going to use it to its fullest extent. My lack of communication is another mans lack of understanding. You obviously don't grasp the concept and seem to have no wont to because you believe that my lack of education, command of the english language and general demeanor are synonymous with the ravings of an left pinko ecofascist. That problem is entirely yours. There's nothing half-baked about "my" idea as it is a fully fledged concept that can be implemented any day of the week should TPTB embrace it or indeed should the people vote for it. It's much easier to implement than any of the financial alternatives I've read about so far and it's impact on life in general has many more positives than any financial alternative can deliver. However, and as I'm fully aware of, you can put in as much effort as you like into trying to understand it... but so far, you aren't even close with your smart assumptions.

    You may well be the smartest person on the planet, but I'd venture that refusing to accept certain truth's and logic, irrespective of how the messenger communicates it, offers the opposite reality. I borrowed the sticker and take it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    This gets to the nub of your mental health issues - how long have you considered yourself to be the one?
    The only one in society with the answer?

    We should all stop what we're doing because you say so?
    I used to think you arrogant, but you're just another nutter with a Messiah Complex...
    ahhhhhh yes, my delusions of grandeur. It's a hard cross to bear, fortunately though it'll be fleeting.
    Nope, not the only one.

    Quite the contrary.
    ... if I thought that'd work, ummmm, nah, that'd be self defeating (and that self is not myself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    You don't have to do anything you don't want to.
    Then why are there laws to the contrary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Then why are there laws to the contrary?
    The laws are for those who choose to live in our society, and those who want to buy stuff and use our public services and drive on our roads, etc...

    You can choose to opt out, but it would be difficult to survive in NZ. Better to go somewhere where you can make your own rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    The laws are for those who choose to live in our society, and those who want to buy stuff and use our public services and drive on our roads, etc...

    You can choose to opt out, but it would be difficult to survive in NZ. Better to go somewhere where you can make your own rules.
    I'm pretty sure I'd find that offensive if I were Maori but I'm not. As you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    I'm pretty sure I'd find that offensive if I were Maori but I'm not. As you were.
    Aside from the fact that there are no pure blood Maori left, and given their European ancestry, are there any "Maori" who would care to comment?

    All this racial crap is doing nothing for this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Aside from the fact that there are no pure blood Maori left, and given their European ancestry, are there any "Maori" who would care to comment?
    Then this in the same post...

    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear
    All this racial crap is doing nothing for this country.
    Fucking brilliant Ed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Then this in the same post...


    Fucking brilliant Ed!
    Think about it...

    By the standard for claiming to be Maori, I can claim to be Creole Indian. For Pete's sake, we are human beings, all of mixed heritage, there should be no racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Ponzi schemes don't just rob the stupid and uneducated though. When someone decides to pull the money rug, even the most experienced financial gurus on the planet are left aghast. A certain Mr Greenspan springs to mind.
    You want to explain how Greenspan was involved in a Ponzi scheme?
    And before you go off raving about "the system", don't bother - just tell me how the Fed Boss was involved in a Ponzi scheme.
    Is it the drugs or some incipient brain damage that has you making these connections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    You want to explain how Greenspan was involved in a Ponzi scheme?
    And before you go off raving about "the system", don't bother - just tell me how the Fed Boss was involved in a Ponzi scheme.
    Is it the drugs or some incipient brain damage that has you making these connections?
    Did I say that? Because I don't remember having said that. In fact looking back, I didn't say that at all.

    NOW I'm laughing at you, could be the after affects of watching Ted (damn that was a fuckin funny movie "Back off Susan Boyle" 8.5/10 )... anyway, as mentioned, as I wasn't saying that Greenspan was involved in a Ponzi scheme. So it would seem that these connections you are making must be drug induced or some form of brain damage (which kinda makes sense) given your propensity for projection. Share the drugs mutha fucka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    The laws are for those who choose to live in our society, and those who want to buy stuff and use our public services and drive on our roads, etc...

    You can choose to opt out, but it would be difficult to survive in NZ. Better to go somewhere where you can make your own rules.
    But people can still do what they like right? You said so. So why bother having the laws? Why not just have a static list of sentences in response to crimes that abuse morality? and leave the question as to whether morality has been abused to judges. They shouldn't need laws for that. Such a backward retarded way to set the rules of society, especially when they can be wheedled out of on technicalities by those who choose to test the judges ability to translate the law to the letter.

    As I've said, I don't want to opt out, but I certainly don't agree with some of the fucked up rules that get written as law. Especially when they protect money over human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Did I say that? Because I don't remember having said that. In fact looking back, I didn't say that at all.

    NOW I'm laughing at you, could be the after affects of watching Ted (damn that was a fuckin funny movie "Back off Susan Boyle" 8.5/10 )... anyway, as mentioned, as I wasn't saying that Greenspan was involved in a Ponzi scheme. So it would seem that these connections you are making must be drug induced or some form of brain damage (which kinda makes sense) given your propensity for projection. Share the drugs mutha fucka.
    You connected Greenspan to Ponzi in the same paragraph.

    Given that you have propensity toward gibberish, it is understandable that you fail to make yourself clear , so perhaps you can tell us about that connection.

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