Race suspension for a K4 or K5 GSX-R600?

[Robert Taylor]

And I do take this personally. If the anonymous / spineless keyboard warrior wanted to inflict pain he succeeded, in spades. Personally, I spend an enormous amount of time replying to every single enquiry, in detail. If the customer doesnt need every ''whizzbang'' available and there is a cost effective value for money way of doing so, then I tell them.
Such veiled accusations are totally off the mark and I guess that you cannot place human decency where it is not supposed to be.

[Pumba]

Rip off ? No!

As the owner of said bouncy up and down bits on an FXR I will back up Roberts comment. I am more than happy and in no way was ripped off.

Even got a coffee at his house (was only instant if I recall and the milk may have been off but it is the thought that counts )

[sugilite:Me]

Yes Shane! We built suspension for one and the all up cost likely exceeded the cost of the bike. The whole point here is that the cost of building anything for such bikes is not indexed to their low value, it costs the same to build regardless. The customer was fully aware of the all up end cost and it was his call.
Rip off ? No! We dont engage in despicable behavouir like that, as you will well testify.

Robert, just got back to your merlot, put your feet up and relax eh. Yes, that troll by the nameless who no doubt will remain nameless was in my opinion a low blow. Anyone who has dealt with you know nothing could be further from the truth. I'll relay a personal experience I've had with your product and service for the benefit of those that may not have had the pleasure of dealing with you and your company. You sold a shock that went into the 10R I was racing, and gave a very good price, significantly lower than retail. The 1st time you saw me on the bike was at Wanganui, straight away you picked up a re-valve and different spring was in order and told me to come and see you at Invercargill the following week. So I bring over the shock over to you in your caravan at the 1st national round for the year and I'll be buggered if I know how you found the time to do it as the big teams with riders like Stroud, Shirrifs and Bernards mob were throwing you their suspension left right and centre. But do it you did, and it was spot on. Further more you did it for free, fully knowing you would most likely not see another purchase from me for a few years to come. Sound like a man prone to rip off''s? Hardly.

It's a real shame people seem to like winding you up for cheap thrills, especially with the amount of incredible technical advice you have given freely on this site over the years. The passion that gets a reaction from you by these trolls is the same passion that drives you to be such an accomplished suspension technician and expert. I'm struggling to think of a single expert in any field that gives out free information and technical support such as you do.

[Drew]

I'm struggling to think of a single expert in any field that gives out free information and technical support such as you do.

Battling with the Ducati, we purchased a TTX shock. I was having stupid set up problems and chucking the thing away every other time I rode it, (turned out to be pissing in the wind since it was wearing the wrong triple clamps). I asked Robert how long he would be prepared to keep working on the shock for us, as part of the sale cost. "Untill it's right Drew". From a bloke that knows a shock is never set up the same on any two days at the track, that's polite speak for 'forever'.

[crazy man]

so did you all have a good night sleep

[Robert Taylor]

so did you all have a good night sleep

Indeed, I didnt lose any time or sleep thinking of the two words that perfectly sum up your demeanour, admirably confirmed by yourself this morning. In a less enlightened time youd have been nailed to the wall.

But just a reminder that this thread is about a few questions on how to set up a racebike with being mindful of cost. What did you do to help the enquirer?

[crazy man]

stock is best

For anyone that does not understand what stock means( it is a component than is in stock of the shelf) Robert sells stock Ohlins suspension not one off like some of you think you have ! (standard suspension) is what comes out standard with the bike! ( so if l ask for a standard suspension for my fzr l expect that's what will be sent to me !) l would fell ripped of if l thought l was getting a 1 off unit ! and then find out there made in there thousands! you know what i'm getting at lol

[Robert Taylor]

For anyone that does not understand what stock means( it is a component than is in stock of the shelf) Robert sells stock Ohlins suspension not one off like some of you think you have ! (standard suspension) is what comes out standard with the bike! ( so if l ask for a standard suspension for my fzr l expect that's what will be sent to me !) l would fell ripped of if l thought l was getting a 1 off unit ! and then find out there made in there thousands! you know what i'm getting at lol

Id retract some of those comments if I were you, given that you have made massive assumptions. Point of fact we build a huge numbers of one offs. Also we change the internal settings and spring rates on a very high percentage of the suspension units we sell to optimise them further for our conditions , and because we are so pedantic that is what we are about. We are always available to our customers and dont trade by fiction
But given you have never been to our premises, seen our equipment and see what we do youve really got no foundation in the incorrect assumptions you have acidicly made.
But why not own up to your sole purpose, to s..t stir for childish satisfaction.

[crazy man]

Id retract some of those comments if I were you, given that you have made massive assumptions. Point of fact we build a huge numbers of one offs. Also we change the internal settings and spring rates on a very high percentage of the suspension units we sell to optimise them further for our conditions , and because we are so pedantic that is what we are about. We are always available to our customers and dont trade by fiction
But given you have never been to our premises, seen our equipment and see what we do youve really got no foundation in the incorrect assumptions you have acidicly madeBut why not own up to your sole purpose, to s..t stir for childish satisfaction

all you have modified is stock suspension the end and as for shildish satisfaction you attacked my spelling .. sorry if that makes you fell better ( l think you do a good job out there) wish things would not come to this. l know my first post can mean a lot of things just take it with a pinch of salt

[crazy man]

somthing new to talk about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbmXxwKbmA

[sugilite:Me]

For anyone that does not understand what stock means( it is a component than is in stock of the shelf) Robert sells stock Ohlins suspension not one off like some of you think you have ! (standard suspension) is what comes out standard with the bike! ( so if l ask for a standard suspension for my fzr l expect that's what will be sent to me !) l would fell ripped of if l thought l was getting a 1 off unit ! and then find out there made in there thousands! you know what i'm getting at lol

Weak sauce dude.

you attacked my spelling

Much more serious than attacking business ethics that have been hard earned.

somthing new to talk about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbmXxwKbmA

Meanwhile at edbears school for distraction.

[crazy man]

Weak sauce dude.


Much more serious than attacking business ethics that have been hard earned.


Meanwhile at edbears school for distraction.

l just want to get off the subject . l am a very sick person and this just makes me sicker . thank you

[Maido]

all you have modified is stock suspension the end and as for shildish satisfaction you attacked my spelling .. sorry if that makes you fell better ( l think you do a good job out there) wish things would not come to this. l know my first post can mean a lot of things just take it with a pinch of salt

Just like how world superbike engines are just modified stock units, so basically they are stock engines right?

It sounds like you started this argument and are now realising you sound like a bit of a dick and are trying to back out. Fair enough.

Its pretty harsh directing a barrage of criticism at someone like Robert who bangs in untold hours to the sport we all love.
At this years NZSBK rounds my 4 year old shock developed an ongoing problem (totally unassociated with his work I might add) that meant I couldn't get the best out of it. Robert worked selflessly in his spare time (spare time hah!) at the track (and this was over 4 rounds of the nationals) to make sure that the shock was fixed. It was a very unique problem that would come and go so took quite some time to get it sorted. Guess what, he didn't charge me a cent as it was a product fault (albeit a very rare one from a high quality Ohlins shock), and you have the balls to say he is a money grabber and that he only deals in stock gear. Cool story bro.

[Mental Trousers]

Its pretty harsh directing a barrage of criticism at someone like Robert who bangs in untold hours to the sport we all love.
At this years NZSBK rounds my 4 year old shock developed an ongoing problem (totally unassociated with his work I might add) that meant I couldn't get the best out of it. Robert worked selflessly in his spare time (spare time hah!) at the track (and this was over 4 rounds of the nationals) to make sure that the shock was fixed. It was a very unique problem that would come and go so took quite some time to get it sorted. Guess what, he didn't charge me a cent as it was a product fault (albeit a very rare one from a high quality Ohlins shock), and you have the balls to say he is a money grabber and that he only deals in stock gear. Cool story bro.

Sounds like you've been running into some interesting problems with your suspension this year. The problems with your forks had a similar fix to mine, ie the spring guides were causing craziness in the rate of change of the air gap.

Robert and Dennis do a huge amount of work they don't charge for. Even the work they do charge for is often less than it should be.

[Maido]

Sounds like you've been running into some interesting problems with your suspension this year. The problems with your forks had a similar fix to mine, ie the spring guides were causing craziness in the rate of change of the air gap.

Robert and Dennis do a huge amount of work they don't charge for. Even the work they do charge for is often less than it should be.

Yeah those forks were crazy, turns out the "stock" version wasn't that great and they had to be modified. Turns out that the bike ended up being the best it had been to date one Robert came up with the solution. Go figure!

PS for sale 1x Castrol CBR600RR if anyone is keen.