ANZACs and war and stuff

[mashman]

Is that at Burning Man?

No, it's a couple of smokin hotties

[Hinny]

Deaths at 911 was a drop in the bucket

Compared to the Four Million that died in Iraq.

A point that is lost on most people because they are not force fed it on a regular basis.
That's 2/3 of the no killed in the holocaust and yet it is simply ignored.
Hopefully somebody will set up the equivalent of the Simon Wiesenthaal institute and hunt the bastards down that were responsible in the same manner the SWI Jews hunt down Nazi War criminals.

What does this have to do with ANZACs?
We were pulled into their war by a thinly-veiled tissue of lies.
Once we went along with it as it had been sanctioned by the UN even though it appears they had been sold a bogus story.
George Bush Snr. addressed 'The World'. Said Iraq had failed to withdraw from Kuwait and so the US was going to go and make them leave.
His broadcast came after we witnessed a report from Peter Arnett on the Kuwait border, sending his feed out direct by satellite, showing the troops streaming over the border. I believe this was the first time this had been done. Broadcast live and direct and bypassing the US censors.
This is how his lie was exposed. Didn't stop them tho'.
Second time Jenny Shipley sent troops into a covert/ illegal invasion of Iraq. Who knows what story she had been told. Technically made every soldier who went a war criminal.
Third attempt Colon Powell went off to the UN with a big smile on his face trying to get approval to invade Iraq again because of the WMDs.
The majority of members were not convinced by his farcical stories. The Aussies were and so only half of the ANZACs went off to 'free those people' and become war criminals in the process.
Very soon after Hillary Clinton was asking "who are these people we are going to support in Libya" John Key was sending them money and encouragement.
The same sort of crimes Charles Taylor was recently convicted of.

Time and time again we get fed stories that are untrue and we are expected to 'do the honourable thing' and send our children off to kill and be killed.

Perhaps it is time for some of our troops to do some good for the world and hunt these lying tow rags down and bring them to justice.

[Hinny]

No, it's a couple of smokin hotties

Clearly not athletes.
I'd probably be keen to try and whip them into shape.

[mashman]

Clearly not athletes.
I'd probably be keen to try and whip them into shape.

Race ya....

[Hinny]

Originally Posted by Hightower
He gave a range of numbers, based on lower and higher concentrations of the thermite formulation. His lowest figure amounted to 29,000 metric tons of thermitic explosive per tower




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I think you are wrong again.
It wasn't Hightower it was Niels Harrit (Chief author of the 2009 nanothermite paper)
and he gave a range of numbers based on lower and higher concentrations of the thermite formulation.
Lowest figure amounted to 29,000 metric tonnes of thermetic explosive per tower.
His conservative estimate was 143,000 tonnes that would have had to be placed in each tower.
Clearly he doesn't believe they were brought down with thermite.
What is abundantly clear is a plane load of kerosene was not going to do it.

[Hinny]

Interesting comments from Jim Fetzer, Editor of the VT (Veterans Today) earlier quoted by Kickaha.

'Observations by first responders of apparent molten metal – thought to be molten iron – could be explained by thermite reactions, which, in turn, could possibly explain the severing of steel columns through a process of melting.'

' It is true that military explosives’ research employs nanotechnology and that applications involving nanothermite are a subset of this research. (The military even connects nanotechnology with mini-nukes, stating that a mini-nuke device the size of a suitcase could destroy an entire building.)'

Few who have carefully watched video footage of the Twin Towers coming down could fail to notice what might appropriately be called “explosive effects” in the nature of the destruction.

The “destructive fragmentation effect” of an explosive is its detonation velocity, or the speed of the shock wave through the substance it is traveling in. To significantly fragment a substance, the detonation velocity of the explosive must equal or exceed the sonic velocity (the speed of sound) in the material. For example, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s. In steel, the speed of sound is 6,100 m/s. Conventional high explosives such as TNT and RDX have detonation velocities of 6,900 and 8,750 m/s respectively, and are therefore capable of fragmenting concrete and steel, because both 6,900 and 8,750 exceed the sonic velocities of 3,200 m/s required to shatter concrete and 6,100 m/s required to shatter steel.

Hightower has further calculated that if conventional explosives (such as TNT or RDX) acting alone were used to bring down the Twin Towers, the quantity necessary would have been hundreds of tons of explosives per tower.

Do you believers get his point?
Tens of Thousands of tonnes of Nanothermite or hundreds of tons of explosive such as TNT or RDX,per tower would be required to bring them down.
Not a few thousand litres of Kerosene,- most of which appeared to have blown out the side of the South tower
Do any Believers understand that Kerosene is not a high explosive capable shattering Concrete and Steel?
Not capable of hurling Huge Steel columns hundreds of metres laterally, with enough force to tear a twenty story gouge down the side of WTC7?

The NIST modeling and the 911 Commission it appears have simply restated the comments of the 'actors' at the scene immediately after the collapse. (The Official Story) and they are sticking to it.
Explosives were not considered.

[Hinny]

Another very valid point
is that the fifteen floors falling from above onto lower floors were constructed in the same manner and of the same materials.
As each floor hit they should have suffered the same damage - just as when one runs their car into a parked car - they both get wrecked.

Therefore: - for every floor below that was blown to Smithereens then one of the upper floors should have been blown to Smithereens as well.

By that reckoning by the fifteenth floor down there would have been no more floors to come crashing down. It appears the majority of the debris was thrown outside the building with much of it simply turned to dust.
As each floor collapsed and material was ejected outside the building ( some estimates put it at more than 50%) then lower floors would have had less and less to hold up and so the collapse would have slowed down. A level designed to hold up 900,000 tonnes suddenly only having to hold up 450,000 tonnes is not going to collapse at the same rate as floors above that had to hold up close to the same amount as they always had; even tho' it may have dropped 8 feet onto it.
Did the collapse slow? Answer - NO!
It appeared to fall without resistance - top to bottom.

[Edbear]

Somebody opined that this thread was now an insult to the OP and to the topic. It has become completely idiotic and I cannot believe how stupid the conspiracy theorists are.

Their opinions, no matter how farcical, over-ride any facts presented. Sadly I agree that the time has come to consign this thread to PD as truly the idiots now posting are spouting total crap that fits the description of POINTLESS DRIVEL to a 'T'

[Katman]

Somebody opined that this thread was now an insult to the OP.....

It's not all about you Ed.

Just because you're uncomfortable with a conversation doesn't give you any rights as chief censor.

[Drew]

It's not all about you Ed.

Just because you're uncomfortable with a conversation doesn't give you any rights as chief censor.

I don't see anything as a sign of discomfort here. The conversation has just taken a rather circular theme.

Believers keep posting links to their irrefutable proof, non believers notice holes and discount it. (Don't get me wrong, there are holes in the official story too).

[Katman]

I don't see anything as a sign of discomfort here. The conversation has just taken a rather circular theme.

Believers keep posting links to their irrefutable proof, non believers notice holes and discount it. (Don't get me wrong, there are holes in the official story too).

The truth will only be found by talking about it Drew - not by ignoring it.

[Drew]

The truth will only be found by talking about it Drew - not by ignoring it.

I really don't think it will.

The shit all over the net is all heavily one eyed, and the sheer volume of said shit makes it impossible to find all the facts.

I am not ignoring anything, I just accept I will never know for sure, and have enough to worry about with out losing sleep over the implications of what you're saying.

[Katman]

I really don't think it will.

The shit all over the net is all heavily one eyed, and the sheer volume of said shit makes it impossible to find all the facts.

I am not ignoring anything, I just accept I will never know for sure, and have enough to worry about with out losing sleep over the implications of what you're saying.

Then why are you even in the thread Drew?

[Drew]

Then why are you even in the thread Drew?

I thought I'd been pretty clear with my posts.

I certainly cannot be bothered going over it all again.

[oneofsix]

I thought I'd been pretty clear with my posts.

I certainly cannot be bothered going over it all again.

Looks like you achieved your aim Drew.


Actually why hasn't this been consigned to PD. It has become just as pointless, if not more so, than the religious arguments.