Paleo diet?

[carbonhed]

Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?

35... but AMAZINGLY they got none of the diseases that we associate with old age!!!!!!

[MSTRS:Me]

Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?

Not too many sabretooths out there these days...

[Banditbandit]

Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?

Prolly about the same as yer average sprots bike hoon ...

35... but AMAZINGLY they got none of the diseases that we associate with old age!!!!!!

Gee .. I wonder why ? Could it be because .. Naa . it would never be that ....

[oneofsix]

Not too many sabretooths out there these days...

Nah, their descendants are curled up on the couch waiting for their slave to provide food.

[scissorhands]

Ah. Your the culprit! Making cheap meat fashionable & pushing up the price.

Used to get pigs heads for $2 each. The butcher wants $10 all of a sudden. Beef shin has doubled in price. Hearts are $5 each on special. Bacon hocks are posh now. K'inell, might have to start catching possums & weasels for tea.

Sorry about that! Bone bits are still cheaper than sausages, it can be our secret... TV and doctors will still repeat low fat/high carb for the peeps who watch it

Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?

sabre tooth tigers and hunting parties? warring tribes and unhygienic living? who washed their hands back then? large animals and lizards freaken everywhere? haasts eagle? imagine what some microbes were like as well....

okay drop the label paleolithic and think of the generation only just before us, casseroles and stews, pigs trotters and such were commonplace just a few decades ago

Many current cultures like Chinese and Thai use bone broths nearly every day.

Just going by the improvements I'm seeing with:

aged skin looking younger,
tendons finally repairing,
increased energy and raised metabolism,
weight loss,
lung repair,
nails firming,
eyes clearing,
under eyes clearing,
strange waste coming out of my pores along my spine,
morning boner,
better poos,
improved kidney function,
skin on back of hands looking young again
improved mood and temperament
clearer thinking

.... all in less than a week eating a trotter every day, is proof enough for me

Will shift from remedial dose to a less frequent maintenance dose in a week or three. No more bread, cereals, cakes biscuits or sweets will be a real struggle... prolly they will just end up as occasional treats

I'm so sold and cheerful at this revelation, quite ecstatic to be honest

Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food. Many sufferers of disease are just a pigs foot away from improved health. Children will become healthy and happy and a joy to be around improved schooling and less anti social behaviours.

The food pyramid is wrong!

[MSTRS:Me]

Just going by the improvements I'm seeing with:

aged skin looking younger,
tendons finally repairing,
increased energy and raised metabolism,
weight loss,
lung repair,
nails firming,
eyes clearing,
under eyes clearing,
strange waste coming out of my pores along my spine,
morning boner,
better poos,
improved kidney function,
skin on back of hands looking young again
improved mood and temperament
clearer thinking

.... all in less than a week eating a trotter every day, is proof enough for me

Co-incidence. The modern medecine-thing just took a little while to kick in.
Don't go upsetting all those gains by eating a healthy diet...

[MisterD]

No more bread, cereals, cakes biscuits or sweets will be a real struggle... prolly they will just end up as occasional treats

I wouldn't go as far as cutting out cereals, after all the "domestication" of wild grasses was a significant milestone in human evolution and allowed us to become farmers rather than hunter-gatherers.

IMO it's the overly-processed and refined nature of the way we consume cereals that's the problem, and I certainly couldn't make it through 90 minutes of footy on a Saturday arvo without my big bowl of porridge (with salt and a knob of butter, rather than sugar or syrup) 2 hours before kick off.

[oneofsix]

I wouldn't go as far as cutting out cereals, after all the "domestication" of wild grasses was a significant milestone in human evolution and allowed us to become farmers rather than hunter-gatherers.

IMO it's the overly-processed and refined nature of the way we consume cereals that's the problem, and I certainly couldn't make it through 90 minutes of footy on a Saturday arvo without my big bowl of porridge (with salt and a knob of butter, rather than sugar or syrup) 2 hours before kick off.

you've hit on a problem with simplistic food descriptions. Cereal manufacturers use it to confuse us into buying their crap. Did you realise the phrase "empty calories" was first coined in regard to breakfast cereals. Oats (porridge) is good cereal as is barley ( whisky) whereas as corn flakes are the empty calories as is bran, how do you think they make the waste product taste ok?

[Drew]

No mention of the gout yet.

Nemmind, I'm sure it's not as bad as people say.

[oneofsix]

No mention of the gout yet.

Nemmind, I'm sure it's not as bad as people say.

Fuck off, why do you think I can't have the offal.

[Drew]

Fuck off, why do you think I can't have the offal.

Guy that works for me worked all day with a limp after a night on the piss.

Figured he'd broken his toe and didn't remember how... Nek minute, no more pork for that mofo.

[oneofsix]

Guy that works for me worked all day with a limp after a night on the piss.

Figured he'd broken his toe and didn't remember how... Nek minute, no more pork for that mofo.

Strange, pork doesn't worry me, unless possibly wild pork. Shell fish, tuna, beans and lentils (including peas and peanuts), offal, wild game (deer, rabbit etc), dark turkey meat. An all meat diet isn't good but generally muscle meat from domestic farmed animals is OK. Anything high in the protein purine which is turned into uric acid which then crystalises in the joints. Best treatment/preventative if its not too bad is plenty of water.

[scissorhands]

Co-incidence. The modern medecine-thing just took a little while to kick in.
Don't go upsetting all those gains by eating a healthy diet...

wot western medicine? the only meds I've had is the controversial green stuff everyone is considering

No mention of the gout yet.

Nemmind, I'm sure it's not as bad as people say.

I had a wee tiny bit in my big toe 2 yrs ago when I was a regular stout drinker, stopped the drinking and its gone

[oneofsix]

I had a wee tiny bit in my big toe 2 yrs ago when I was a regular stout drinker, stopped the drinking and its gone

Classic mistake. You haven't treated your gout per say but have allowed the liver a bit more space to process the purines. Drink doesn't cause gout, it is the other foods that cause but drink distracts the body from dealing with their purines.

[scissorhands]

I wouldn't go as far as cutting out cereals, after all the "domestication" of wild grasses was a significant milestone in human evolution and allowed us to become farmers rather than hunter-gatherers.

IMO it's the overly-processed and refined nature of the way we consume cereals that's the problem, and I certainly couldn't make it through 90 minutes of footy on a Saturday arvo without my big bowl of porridge (with salt and a knob of butter, rather than sugar or syrup) 2 hours before kick off.

yeah I thought about oats and highlanders appear quite well with their whiskies too

'full of oats', 'sew your wild oats', 'full of beans'
most paleo diets prohibit all grains and legumes, probably a step too far

But humans are one eyed idiot sheeple by default, and take doctrine to new heights of impassioned logicless rhetoric
extrapolating into the realms of bad science is typical of our species

Genotypes need be considered as well.
My Northern European ancestors ate meat based diets due to geography, [too cold for a good garden] whereas an equatorial breed had many more thousands of years of grain and fruit consumption than my direct ancestors

Neanderthal [me, big head and large chest] strains amongst the masses would be the ones to gain the most from a move away from carbs towards meat

Maori and pacific islander would benefit more than most neanderthal whities as their evolution toward agrarian diets is even more recent

Beyond all these individual considerations based on genotype, I'd say even the most agarian races are now eating too much carb and not enough meat

The large head and brain is a product of a protein rich diet, as well as evolutionary advantage from brain power