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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    35... but AMAZINGLY they got none of the diseases that we associate with old age!!!!!!
    They also didn't have the medical and social services of today.

    Take away those two things from modern society and a lot of people wouldn't make 35.

    I know I wouldn't of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road kill View Post
    They also didn't have the medical and social services of today.

    Take away those two things from modern society and a lot of people wouldn't make 35.

    I know I wouldn't of.
    Be careful there. Some of the latest digs have been raising questions over that assumption. They may not have had the drug companies turning it in to pills but they did have the druids, witches or whatever they chose to call them, that knew how to get the medicines out of the same plants and the "social services" of a tribe or village could be better and more individually targeted than today's blanket and accountant constrained "services". Live span was also quite possibly much longer than previously thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Be careful there. Some of the latest digs have been raising questions over that assumption. They may not have had the drug companies turning it in to pills but they did have the druids, witches or whatever they chose to call them, that knew how to get the medicines out of the same plants and the "social services" of a tribe or village could be better and more individually targeted than today's blanket and accountant constrained "services". Live span was also quite possibly much longer than previously thought.
    Yes. The thing with history is that the victor gets to tell the story that everyone believes.

    When Cookie sailed to NZ he wrote extensively about the handsome good health of the Maori. But they dropped like flies when that flu arrived...

    Oh how times have changed, yet the Polynesian genotype is still structurally sounder than your average white breed.

    I just now returned from a support group meeting for 'Lupus', mostly degenerated whitey genes amongst the punters, with an autistic leaning.

    Many[all] disease sufferes are those with poor genes

    Its all in the breeding dearies

    Bring in prenatal screening, recommendations and financial incentives to not breed. The only ones profiting are drug and medical companies. They might pay tax whilst they work, but the economy would be better off with just more offspring from the healthier parents.

    No farmer would survive running a farm like this

    Yet, with modern living eating into the human population, healthy parents are becoming harder to find....

    The answer?? Bone broth soups!!
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    • Homemade meat or fish stock.

    Meat and fish stocks provide building blocks for the rapidly growing cells of the gut lining and they have a soothing effect on any areas of inflammation in the gut. That is why they aid digestion and have been known for centuries as healing folk remedies for the digestive tract

    Do not use commercially available soup stock granules or bouillon cubes, they are highly processed and are full of detrimental ingredients.

    Chicken stock is particularly gentle on the stomach and is very good to start from. To make good meat stock you need joints, bones, a piece of meat on the bone, a whole chicken, giblets from chicken, goose or duck, whole pigeons, pheasants or other inexpensive meats. It is essential to use bones and joints, as they provide the healing substances, not so much the muscle meats.

    Ask the butcher to cut in half the large tubular bones, so you can get the bone marrow out of them after cooking. Put the bones, joints and meats into a large pan and fill it up with water, add natural unprocessed salt to your taste at the beginning of cooking and about a teaspoon of black peppercorns, roughly crushed. Bring to boil, cover and simmer on a low heat for 2,5 - 3 hours.

    You can make fish stock the same way using a whole fish or fish fins, bones and heads. After cooking take the bones and meats out and sieve the stock to remove small bones and pepper corns. Strip off all the soft tissues from the bones as best as you can to later add to soups or encourage your patient to eat all the soft tissues on the bones. Extract the bone marrow out of large tubular bones while they are still warm: to do that bang the bone on a thick wooden chopping board.

    The gelatinous soft tissues around the bones and the bone marrow provide some of the best healing remedies for the gut lining and the immune system; your patient needs to consume them with every meal. Take off all the soft tissues from fish bones and heads and reserve for adding to soups later.

    The meat or fish stock will keep well in the fridge for at least 7 days or it can be frozen. Keep giving your patient warm meat stock as a drink all day with his meals and between meals. Do not use microwaves for warming up the stock, use conventional stove (microwaves destroy food). It is very important for your patient to consume all the fat in the stock and off the bones as these fats are essential for the healing process.
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    If you could turn that into paragraphs I might be inclined to read it.

    Pressure cooker here FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No mention of the gout yet.

    Nemmind, I'm sure it's not as bad as people say.
    Every bit and then worse Bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdog View Post
    If you could turn that into paragraphs I might be inclined to read it.

    Pressure cooker here FTW!
    I thought the same too but forgot after the cut n paste... done!

    from http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome....ction-diet.pdf


    full site http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/
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    Most of my life I have been used to polishing off a big bag of crisps in 1/2 an hour, every couple of days or as comfort food when stressed.

    After 1 week on this diet, I ate a bag of crisps last night. NEVER AGAIN!!!

    I had an almost instant negative reaction, finished the bag, and continued to feel poorly till I went to bed 1 hour later.

    This last 3 years, I have been waking 4am for a pee, often unable to return to sleep for 1-2hours, which has been very frustrating, so I would normally get up for a few hours then return to sleep at 6am. Last night was the first time in years I slept through

    Last night I was in the dreamworld like forever, meet my old girlfriend, flew around the place [flapping my arms with a ladder on my back??] like a horny teenager, and spent what seemed like a whole weekend at a biker ish party with all these helpful spirits/characters offering me assistance.

    The archetypes and characters contained within last nights dreamworld were of a spirit healing type and I woke afresh like never before.

    As my previously dried out body is nourishing and repairing from the alimentary canal outward, the brain and other organs are regenerating in an extremely short space of time since beginning this bone broth regime.

    My facial sinuses are excreting waste through the pores on my cheeks, I have some very odd spots appearing there... just go with it

    With this cellular repair, my confidence, character and spirit is all improving.

    Sexually, I have lifted my status immensely.

    Those who dont want sex, or cannot get sex, should not have sex, as they are not able to conceive or parent well, both at a cellular and societal level. The offspring must live within the society so politics affects this dynamic which protects the offspring from exclusion


    All this is changing for me!!!! PIGS FEET!!!

    EVEN TYPING THIS OUT HAS BEEN HALF THE EFFORT IT USED TO BE, with fewer typos and errors to fix at the end

    I wonder if the greens will promote this way of eating?

    I'm over the moon and honestly cannot recommend bone broth highly enough. It has turned my life around

    Cannabis smoking will dry out your body from the lungs outward. Either eat/drink it or make sure you eat bone broth to repair tissue harm caused by smoke harming your collagen rich lung tissue
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    An all meat diet isn't good

    Huh ?? I changed to a Vegan diet because they told me it would be healthy - but now you tell me it's not?
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Huh ?? I changed to a Vegan diet because they told me it would be healthy - but now you tell me it's not?
    sucker. What do you suppose those canine teeth are for? ripping oranges apart. Actually Eskimos used to survive on a basically an all meat diet now that you mention it. Vitamin C from the blubber instead of fruit and veg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Huh ?? I changed to a Vegan diet because they told me it would be healthy - but now you tell me it's not?
    An all 'something' diet is never good

    Modern living places so much stress on our bodies, the bone broth diet is indicated even more now to combat pollution

    Amino acids assists the liver in detoxifying

    Even during a vege fast, consume gelatine with the vege soups. It will aide the cleanse

    There is no thriving vegetarian or vegan country. Many vegetarian Indian children are malnourished, obese, deformed frames. The healthier ones are the Sikhs

    Westerners who embrace vegetarianism usually do so for only some years. I know many living here in Grey Lynn.... FAIL
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    I was trying to create a joke, clearly I was being too subtle ....
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    aspies are too literal thinking and dont get innuendo
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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    Many current cultures like Chinese and Thai use bone broths nearly every day.
    ...and brothels for bones too.

    Do bacon bones apply too? I make a mean bacon bone curry... Must make some pig's trotters stew soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    Westerners who embrace vegetarianism usually do so for only some years. I know many living here in Grey Lynn.... FAIL
    The ones I know eat too many lollies, as well as starchy foods (frequently chips and pasta). When I think vegetarian, I think tofu, beans, greens, and some portions of kumara, potatoes, etc. I have to say though, the most tasty vegetarian cuisine is the Indian version. That's probably the only version I'd consider eating daily if I turned vegetarian...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    aspies are too literal thinking and dont get innuendo
    You weren't the only one who missed it .. or maybe it was because my own warped non-neurotypical view of the world is not shared by many others ..
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