Paleo diet?

[oneofsix]

You weren't the only one who missed it .. or maybe it was because my own warped non-neurotypical view of the world is not shared by many others ..

sometimes one doesn't expect their 'own warped non-neurotypical view' to be reflected by others

[scissorhands]

...and brothels for bones too.

Do bacon bones apply too? I make a mean bacon bone curry... Must make some pig's trotters stew soon.



The ones I know eat too many lollies, as well as starchy foods (frequently chips and pasta). When I think vegetarian, I think tofu, beans, greens, and some portions of kumara, potatoes, etc. I have to say though, the most tasty vegetarian cuisine is the Indian version. That's probably the only version I'd consider eating daily if I turned vegetarian...

Bacon bones sure are tasty, I put them in yesterdays pot which should last a few more days.

Pig issues are metabolic wastes due to inability to sweat, and factory farming conditions. Pigs have very large amounts of gelatine/collagen though, so for unwell peeps pig meat will get you on you feet quicker. Also pig meat is very similar to human flesh which may be beneficial as well. The Okinawian longevity diet is based around their national dish, pork and seaweed soup. Curing adds sodium and curing agents, which are probably not that good to eat all the time

Boiled whole chickens are usually recommended though for very unwell peeps as assimilation is the easiest of all the common meats. The pigeons around here get quite close sometimes My friendly goose at Western Springs, Mario has been a bit annoying lately

Nothing wrong with vegetarian meals, but after being semi-veg for the last couple of years now, I can not recommend being a vegetarian. My tendon issue and lung problems may never have transpired if I had kept up my long time favourite of lamb shanks in the crock pot. I developed a friendship with a vegan from The Daktory, 3 years back, and got the guilts from him a bit, and cut out most meat, as well as smoking a great deal more.

My health has deteriorated since that time, until last week.
Wifi zones and electronic shops became unbearable now the last six months, I have become electro-sensitive, though continuing computer use and more signal towers may be the prime mover rather than purely vegetarian lifestyle.

Also I spent much time in the CBD.
Not from now on though, health is precious, especially after my first disease state scare, which ended last week when I started on this Paleo Diet. Thanks cannabis clubs

Most of the naturopaths at Grey Lynns long time health food store, are bone boilers, I just found out

You weren't the only one who missed it .. or maybe it was because my own warped non-neurotypical view of the world is not shared by many others ..

Yeah I was rushing about this morning.... seem to be able to more things at once now, brain is so much better.
Still very literal though.... unless I can devote time to analysing everything that is said.


Aspies have photographic memory's...

I remember a photo from about 2 years ago of your dinner [or was that puddytat??] lamb shanks and beans from your garden with mashed spuds?

I can see it now in my mind very vividly, yum yum

[slowpoke]

Most of my life I have been used to polishing off a big bag of crisps in 1/2 an hour, every couple of days or as comfort food when stressed.

After 1 week on this diet, I ate a bag of crisps last night. NEVER AGAIN!!!

I had an almost instant negative reaction, finished the bag, and continued to feel poorly till I went to bed 1 hour later.

etc

etc

All this is changing for me!!!! PIGS FEET!!!

EVEN TYPING THIS OUT HAS BEEN HALF THE EFFORT IT USED TO BE, with fewer typos and errors to fix at the end

I wonder if the greens will promote this way of eating?

I'm over the moon and honestly cannot recommend bone broth highly enough. It has turned my life around

Cannabis smoking will dry out your body from the lungs outward. Either eat/drink it or make sure you eat bone broth to repair tissue harm caused by smoke harming your collagen rich lung tissue

Dude the more I read of your thread the more I'm thinking you are in absolutely no position to be recommending any form of nutrition/health advice. You've had shit eating habits prior, now you've changed them, and VOILA: you've seen an improvement. But bloody hell, you could be eating a diet of Guinea Pig faeces on rice crackers and it would probably be an improvement.

From wiki: It is also unlikely that Paleolithic hunter-gatherers were affected by modern diseases of affluence and extended life such as Type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease and cerebrovascular disease, because they ate mostly lean meats and plants and frequently engaged in intense physical activity, and because the average lifespan was shorter than the age of common-onset of these conditions.

So where's the talk of plants, vegetables and exercise? And do you really think the Paleo Bro's would be faffing around boiling up pig trotters every day when there's plenty of perfectly good flesh on offer? Seriously man, think about it.

Sorry mate, this a case of a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. You've noticed an improvemnt, good for you, but you are in no position to be advocating this diet for everyone when all you have experienced is 2 diverse parts of the food spectrum and somehow skipped simple healthy eating in the middle.

Here's a tip that won't sell any books or get a million hits on Youtube as the latest fad diet: eat healthy do moderate exercise. It's not rocket science.

[scissorhands]

Dude the more I read of your thread the more I'm thinking you are in absolutely no position to be recommending any form of nutrition/health advice. You've had shit eating habits prior, now you've changed them, and VOILA: you've seen an improvement. But bloody hell, you could be eating a diet of Guinea Pig faeces on rice crackers and it would probably be an improvement.

From wiki: It is also unlikely that Paleolithic hunter-gatherers were affected by modern diseases of affluence and extended life such as Type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease and cerebrovascular disease, because they ate mostly lean meats and plants and frequently engaged in intense physical activity, and because the average lifespan was shorter than the age of common-onset of these conditions.

So where's the talk of plants, vegetables and exercise? And do you really think the Paleo Bro's would be faffing around boiling up pig trotters every day when there's plenty of perfectly good flesh on offer? Seriously man, think about it.

Sorry mate, this a case of a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. You've noticed an improvemnt, good for you, but you are in no position to be advocating this diet for everyone when all you have experienced is 2 diverse parts of the food spectrum and somehow skipped simple healthy eating in the middle.

Here's a tip that won't sell any books or get a million hits on Youtube as the latest fad diet: eat healthy do moderate exercise. It's not rocket science.

ooohhh.... goody

How many people eat healthy? 50%? 10%?

Are you saying a move back to meals with boiled bones is a bad recommendation?

My soups have soup mix, onion garlic carrots cruciferous veges and leafy greens too....

The trotter is probably the most gelatinous cut of meat available, thats why I chose it for a controlled experiment.... coming from a semi vegetarian, smokers lifestyle.

I was surfing and skating almost everyday this last summer, walking 10km everyday last winter, till my tendon completely went a few months back.

Most athletes will struggle with tendon problems, most probably due to not enough gelatine for rebuild....

Doctors are still freaken useless, the food pyramid is wrong.
Go for a walk in the city and find some healthy older people....
1 in 30? I'm way healthier than most, Dude get a grip

[Tigadee]

Doctors are still freaken useless, the food pyramid is wrong.

I would mostly agree with you there!

Go for a walk in the city and find some healthy older people....
1 in 30? I'm way healthier than most, Dude get a grip

Now you've given yourself away!

Older people don't say 'dude'! You're obviously younger than you claim and posing as an older person!

[Banditbandit]

sometimes one doesn't expect their 'own warped non-neurotypical view' to be reflected by others

Yeah ... I shouldn't expect people to get it ... but then ... I'm inclined to forget other people dont see the world like I do ... so Close enough for Government work I suppose ...

[Banditbandit]

Doctors are still freaken useless, the food pyramid is wrong.

Yeah .. I used to think there were only two food groups ... caffeine and nicotine ... and bugger I've given up one of those ...

cruciferous veges

Whoa DUDE .. you nail your vegetables to a tree??? That's just sick man ... Plant rights rule !!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some of the less expensive cuts are some of the best. People have forgotten how good bones, tripe, liver, kidney, heart, tongue, etc taste.

Thanks for this reminder OP. I will make my bone broth tonight...

beef cheeks are my favourite form of beef ..... mmmmmm

OP check this out:

http://kitchen72.com/index.php/2012/...-head-terrine/

[mashman]

How can a hawt Dr be wrong?...

[slowpoke]

ooohhh.... goody

How many people eat healthy? 50%? 10%?

Are you saying a move back to meals with boiled bones is a bad recommendation?

My soups have soup mix, onion garlic carrots cruciferous veges and leafy greens too....

The trotter is probably the most gelatinous cut of meat available, thats why I chose it for a controlled experiment.... coming from a semi vegetarian, smokers lifestyle.

I was surfing and skating almost everyday this last summer, walking 10km everyday last winter, till my tendon completely went a few months back.

Most athletes will struggle with tendon problems, most probably due to not enough gelatine for rebuild....

Doctors are still freaken useless, the food pyramid is wrong.
Go for a walk in the city and find some healthy older people....
1 in 30? I'm way healthier than most, Dude get a grip

So it's an experiment now? One where you found "firmer fingernails" after one week despite fingernails only growing at 3mm/month? http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin...nails-grow.htm And improved "kidney function"? What did you use for your home renal health analysis? A taste test?

Get a grip? I'm not the bloke advocating something I've only followed for a week and don't actually know a lot about. What you are prescribing isn't actually a Paleo Diet:

"Centered on commonly available modern foods, the "contemporary" Paleolithic diet consists mainly of fish, grass-fed pasture raised meats, eggs, vegetables, fruit, fungi, roots, and nuts, and excludes grains, legumes, dairy products, potatoes, refined salt, refined sugar, and processed oils"

.....so I'm guessing you'll be picking all the grains and beans out of that soup mix (which will leave you with nothing) and avoiding the potatoes.....and the salt/pepper seasoning....and the chunk of bread and butter on the side? Hmmm, I wonder what you are doing for breakfast? Cutting out tea and coffee as well?

I really don't care what you eat, it doesn't even sound that bad, but you are simply not in position to promote a diet to other people based on one week's experience. Nor are you in a position to use whatever information you've found on the net to contradict people who study this stuff for a living:

"A 2011 ranking by U.S. News & World Report, involving a panel of 22 experts, ranked the Paleo diet lowest of the 20 diets evaluated based on factors including health, weight-loss and ease of following.[29] These results were repeated in the 2012 survey, in which the diet tied with the Dukan diet for the lowest ranking out of 25 diets; U.S. News & World Report stated that their experts "took issue with the diet on every measure" wiki

But really this isn't about diet is it? I'm guessing this is your Asperger's "special interest" of the moment?

http://suite101.com/article/asperger...erests-a251062

I'm not having a go at you, just trying to understand what's behind this new-found fascination and enthusiasm.

[Brett]

I'm afraid that simple mantra never actually worked with our complex bodies.... I can lend you a copy of "the Smarter Science of Slim" if you want a better explanation.....

Exactly. Calories are not the same, different foods effect metabolism in different ways. The calorie is just a stupid yard stick for food "energy" that was developed back when people did not have the scientific understanding/ability to further break food down and how our bodies react to it. The word "calorie" should be banned from our lives...it's misleading and calorie counting is not necessarily the correct way to achieve body goals. That's whether you want to gain OR lose weight.

[Brett]

For those looking for a very interesting wholistic body health read, try The 4 Hour Body by Tim Ferris. I have personally tried a few of the things that he has talked about and found that it conclusively worked for me. Don't like his 20min training routines though, I personally love a good body thrashing.

[Naki Rat]

Huh ?? I changed to a Vegan diet because they told me it would be healthy - but now you tell me it's not?

Check out The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith to find out about the real dangers of vege/veganism

And for information that parallels the theme of this thread check out In Defence Of Food by Michael Pollan, and other books by him about diet.

Both books are very enlightening and interesting reads

[Road kill]

...and brothels for bones too.

Do bacon bones apply too? I make a mean bacon bone curry... Must make some pig's trotters stew soon.



The ones I know eat too many lollies, as well as starchy foods (frequently chips and pasta). When I think vegetarian, I think tofu, beans, greens, and some portions of kumara, potatoes, etc. I have to say though, the most tasty vegetarian cuisine is the Indian version. That's probably the only version I'd consider eating daily if I turned vegetarian...

Bacon bones are a gift from god.

Try to keep it secret aye.

[mashman]

I R 42. For my entire life, well, for as long I can remember, I've been eating meat and chips/mash (some form of potato). A veggie passes my lips once a year, salad passes my lips in the form of lettuce once a month (used to be a lot less)... I've maintained the same weight for the last 17+ years. There is no reason that I should be the weight I am (108kgs) and I should be gasping for air everytime my arse leaves the couch due to my habit. I play 5's once a week and once up and running I walk off the other end in better condition than younger fitter men. 5 a day, bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa, that's a laugh. I'm supposed to have scurvy, but don't. I'm supposed to be unfit, which I am but not as much as I should be given diet and lack of exercise, the cardio Doc was pretty surprised at my normal blood pressure, I have a slightly elevate cholesterol but a lot lower than a few guys I know who eat well and exercise. It would seem that my body somehow gets what it needs. Figure that one out.