Stupid World

**mashman** · 8th June 2013, 10:59

Originally Posted by blue rider

from daily kos

a nice compilation of links in regards to government spying on citizens....thought crimes you know!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...eport-Say-What

i think i might get some carrier pigeons.......lol

What a mess eh... just as well we have all of those normal joe dickheads walking the streets and classing it all as a great conspiracy. Did I say we, I meant they. "Living in a plastic land" was an interesting read.

**unstuck** · 9th June 2013, 07:04

Stupid world.

**mashman** · 9th June 2013, 09:34

Originally Posted by unstuck

Stupid world.

"Paul was approached by members of the oil cartel that made him offers for his patent, each time he demanded a contractual provision that the invention would actually be used to help man and the planet - The potential buyers always refused -

One group took Paul to court and argued that Paul was insane, for anyone that would turn down the amount of money that he was offered was surely crazy -"

Coz we're all greedy according to the human nature believing morons wrapped in stupid. Poor guy man

. Wish I were an engineery type.

**unstuck** · 9th June 2013, 09:51

A mate of mine from west Auckland was working on some type of water injection system for combustion engines, and some "people" gave him shitloads of cash to stop it. All he will tell me is that it has been destroyed.

**mashman** · 9th June 2013, 10:35

Originally Posted by unstuck

A mate of mine from west Auckland was working on some type of water injection system for combustion engines, and some "people" gave him shitloads of cash to stop it. All he will tell me is that it has been destroyed.

WTF... sellout. However, he can redeem his soul if he'll fund my assault on the financial system

**unstuck** · 9th June 2013, 10:56

Originally Posted by mashman

WTF... sellout. However, he can redeem his soul if he'll fund my assault on the financial system

Nah, money does change some people. He has turned into a bit of a wanker since all this took place, was about 25yrs ago. I suppose he knows he sold out and it,s not sitting right with him, who knows, he,s not allowed to talk about it.

**gwigs** · 9th June 2013, 11:28

And John Key has taken away our rights to protest at sea....

**Ocean1** · 9th June 2013, 11:33

Originally Posted by mashman

Wish I were an engineery type.

You could make a start by taking the 10 minutes of research required to discover that the chances that any of the hundreds of "water as a fuel" inventions and patents either working on this planet or being effectively hushed up by your favourite corporate bogyman are, very approximately... zero.

Or you could just, y'know, continue to spout complete shite from the unassailable position of complete ignorance.

**mashman** · 9th June 2013, 12:57

Originally Posted by unstuck

Nah, money does change some people. He has turned into a bit of a wanker since all this took place, was about 25yrs ago. I suppose he knows he sold out and it,s not sitting right with him, who knows, he,s not allowed to talk about it.

Aye, money only turns them into the wanker they were destined to begin with... albeit a little sooner than intended. Talking of which........

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You could make a start by taking the 10 minutes of research required to discover that the chances that any of the hundreds of "water as a fuel" inventions and patents either working on this planet or being effectively hushed up by your favourite corporate bogyman are, very approximately... zero.

Or you could just, y'know, continue to spout complete shite from the unassailable position of complete ignorance.

Lemme see now, hmmm, oxygen is highly combustible, hydrogen is highly combustible........ aye, it'll never work.

It never stops you, and what's good for the goose etc...

**Ocean1** · 9th June 2013, 13:35

Originally Posted by mashman

Lemme see now, hmmm, oxygen is highly combustible, hydrogen is highly combustible........ aye, it'll never work.

Yes. In fact if the result of combining oxygen and hydrogen is a fuckload of energy. And water.

And if you want to split water into oxygen and hydrogen you add need to add that same fuckload of energy into the equation.

So yes, you can design engines that process water. But you can't claim that they're burning it, and they'll be using a fuckload more energy than they produce.

Not the very best feature for any sort of useful engine.

**mashman** · 9th June 2013, 13:50

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Yes. In fact if the result of combining oxygen and hydrogen and a fuckload of energy is... water.

And if you want to split water into oxygen and hydrogen you add need to add that fuckload of energy.

So yes, you can design engines that process water. But you can't claim that they're burning it, and they'll be using a fuckload more energy than they produce.

Not the very best feature for any sort of useful engine.

Good job we have a powerful engine packed with a fuckload of energy called the sky then eh.

A fuckload of energy? I did it using an exceptionally crude devices and a PC power supply, and then all it takes is a spark to release that energy. That's a fuckload less energy than goes into creating all of the components that go together to get oil out of the ground before processing it into petrol.

In which case you can't say that a car runs on petrol given that it is refined before putting it into to tank... kinda.

That I agree with. I see the uses for engines such as these for "processing" dirty water into clean water, especially for places like Haiti who are still having huge issues with cholera and the price of clean water etc... but if the technology is being "buried" because it's more efficient than getting shit out of the ground thousands of metres below the surface, then there's an ulterior motive at work. This much is true. To be honest though, I'd rather not be running vehicles on "water".

**mashman** · 9th June 2013, 13:53

Originally Posted by gwigs

And John Key has taken away our rights to protest ar sea....

Fuckin disgraceful man. It's a shame, as they guy says in the vid, that we're reactive instead of pro-active... and all because being pro-active costs precious money (that infinite resource). The white man is a savage wanker.