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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    So what ARE you saying?
    You aren't biased?

    I see all these claims about WTC7 and Flight 77 etc, but not one, single, irrefutable piece of evidence that contradicts the conclusion that AQ planned and executed the whole thing.
    The conspiracy theorists are just that - theorists.
    Sure there's interesting shit like the way WTC7 fell down, and the confusing testimony that came out, etc.
    But in an operation that would have needed to have involved hundreds of people over the whole of the continental USA, we still have no one, 12 years after the fact that has come forward and said - "I was involved".

    Why is that?
    This is a Govt. that is bleeding intelligence at the moment.
    Why no mention in wiki-leaks?
    Nothing from the Russian spy's operating in DC?
    Nothing from the British MI6 whistle-blowers mentioned earlier?
    You know my reasons for siding with the conspiracy theorists. There are too many inconsistencies for 1 side to be believed over another, BUT, given that there are experts who honestly believe that the FACTS that back up the official story are questionable, I'm going with them as I wouldn't put it past a govt to allow these sorts of things to happen. Anything I say after this point will be "conspiracy", but I'm not foolish enough to believe that there aren't people in this world that would allow these sorts of things to happen and then do nothing about them other than to start planning for the fallout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
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    regarding the use of Occams razor ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    ... it's an analytical tool. And in this case it's implementation is entirely appropriate, and it strongly suggests that there's fuck all dodgy going on there outside of the recorded and commonly accepted causes..



    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post

    I see all these claims about WTC7 and Flight 77 etc, but not one, single, irrefutable piece of evidence that contradicts the conclusion that AQ planned and executed the whole thing.
    The conspiracy theorists are just that - theorists.
    Sure there's interesting shit like the way WTC7 fell down, and the confusing testimony that came out, etc.
    But in an operation that would have needed to have involved hundreds of people over the whole of the continental USA, we still have no one, 12 years after the fact that has come forward and said - "I was involved".
    Yet not one piece of evidence that concludes that AQ planned and executed the whole thing.
    Not one person who has come forward and said - "I was involved".

    You cannot be serious.
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    Conspiracy theories are easy to concoct, and generally impossible to disprove - in the exact same way that it's impossible to actually prove anything.

    I have recently learned that a significant number of Jews sold their homes in Christchurch, in the weeks and months before the big shake. So was there a Jewish conspiracy involved? My evidence says so - unless you can prove otherwise. You can't? Then the conspiracy stands.

    My doubts over-ride your evidence and common sense, until you can prove otherwise.

    Proof. The onus of proof is always on the other party. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    Conspiracy theories are easy to concoct, and generally impossible to disprove - in the exact same way that it's impossible to actually prove anything.

    I have recently learned that a significant number of Jews sold their homes in Christchurch, in the weeks and months before the big shake. So was there a Jewish conspiracy involved? My evidence says so - unless you can prove otherwise. You can't? Then the conspiracy stands.

    My doubts over-ride your evidence and common sense, until you can prove otherwise.

    Proof. The onus of proof is always on the other party. Keep up the good work.
    Feel free to make an issue of it if it's important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post
    You lack of knowledge demonstrates clearly that you are new to the whole questioning of the official story.
    Posting links to justify your assertions of facts, eg 'FDR parameter not installed', with the unequivocal truth as contained in the statement 'as a professional pilot it is unlikely the doors were monitored', is just being silly.

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    I accept what a professional pilot says (and what he says about reinforced cockpit doors prior to 9/11 is fact), and I'm being silly?

    Then you post ridiculous and unproven statements like "The behaviour of the US Govt. is probably the biggest reason to suspect official involvement. Guilty behaviour implying guilt."
    They look guilty so they are? It's that simple?

    "The events that took place on Sept 11 2001 and the subsequent moves by Govts around the world were and remain extremely important."
    This is true, but it proves nothing.

    You're still asking me to accept a theory based on suppositions and innuendo. whilst the obvious answer is the simplest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    whilst the obvious answer is the simplest.
    Regardless of it's countless flaws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    You know my reasons for siding with the conspiracy theorists.
    I don't actually. I had assumed some sort of chemical imbalance, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Regardless of it's countless flaws?
    Until a less flawed one comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post
    regarding the use of Occams razor ...
    You cannot be serious.

    I see you're not a fan of logic tools.

    Have you got past step 1 yet? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130554688
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Regardless of it's countless flaws?
    So there's no flaws in any of the other theories put forward? ie controlled demoliton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    Conspiracy theories are easy to concoct, and generally impossible to disprove - in the exact same way that it's impossible to actually prove anything.

    I have recently learned that a significant number of Jews sold their homes in Christchurch, in the weeks and months before the big shake. So was there a Jewish conspiracy involved? My evidence says so - unless you can prove otherwise. You can't? Then the conspiracy stands.

    My doubts over-ride your evidence and common sense, until you can prove otherwise.

    Proof. The onus of proof is always on the other party. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Assume, for a moment, (and I understand this might be difficult) that something other than an explosive device caused the building to fall down. A spontaneous existence failure of several steel columns, say.
    So why would NIST claim that it was the failure of a single column?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    So there's no flaws in any of the other theories put forward? ie controlled demoliton
    And you don't think there's cause for an independent investigation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So why would NIST claim that it was the failure of a single column?
    No idea.

    Could it be, I wonder, that they think it was the failure of a single column?

    Just, y'know putting it out there...
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