Stupid World

**mashman** · 17th June 2013, 16:57

Originally Posted by avgas

Yeah but what about those of us who can do fine with none-of-em. As mentioned earlier. No reason to go to work for $ to pay the doctor or binman, I'm out of here. What do you propose to keep people like me, with humble skills that ARE required by society to stay with society.
I mentioned earlier, provided there is no black plague etc - I am confident I can survive quite comfortably on my own.
And if there was some horrible outbreak of something, you really believe doctors will save you?

What happens to your system when all the people whom are required by society, suddenly up and leave society to it? What is the backup?

I am all for you idea, sounds like a great holiday for me.

As I said earlier, by all means fuck off to the country and do nothing. If you're happy with taking your skills away from those who could use them, then that is entirely up to you. Yes I realise that if enough people decide to live in such a way the whole thing will fail, then so be it, but the opportunity will be there to make it a success. That and your kids won't be allowed to play in our society, ha, just jokin, but that is my driver, the future for the kid that is and not just mine. I'd happily shuffle off this mortal coil knowing that my contribution made a difference to the future of others and gave a future to others.
Just because you remove yourself from the general populous and decide to do nothing doesn't exclude you from receiving that which society produces. There'll be enough of us to cover your absence, and as mentioned above, it's entirely your choice should you wish to throw your needed skills into the mix.
If there is an outbreak, if the Dr's decide not to save you, then I'm pretty sure they'll figure out that the outbreak will eventually get them given the lack of prevention.

The backup is we end up going back to a financial system. If people up and leave, people up and leave. Meh.

Would you settle for working 3 - 4 hours for 3 or 4 days a week?

**mashman** · 18th June 2013, 18:12

Bit of a scarey read really

"Top secret US National Security Agency (NSA) documents disclosed by the Guardian have shocked the world with revelations of a comprehensive US-based surveillance system with direct access to Facebook, Apple, Google, Microsoft and other tech giants. New Zealand court records suggest that data harvested by the NSA's Prism system has been fed into the Five Eyes intelligence alliance whose members also include the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand."

"The study also warned of a possible shortfall in global oil output by 2015"

"The Pentagon knows that environmental, economic and other crises could provoke widespread public anger toward government and corporations in coming years. The revelations on the NSA's global surveillance programmes are just the latest indication that as business as usual creates instability at home and abroad, and as disillusionment with the status quo escalates, Western publics are being increasingly viewed as potential enemies that must be policed by the state."

racetosun · 18th June 2013, 19:17

Why should we even think that academics or politicians will solve all our problems?

**mashman** · 18th June 2013, 19:43

Originally Posted by racetosun

Why should we even think that academics or politicians will solve all our problems?

The downside is that they're in a position to do something about it. The upside is that they're in a position to do something about it. The downside is that they don't know what to do and are awaiting instructions, I mean waiting to take advice on the situation. But I agree with you, I think "normal" people understand the issues and would choose to do what is best for the majority than follow orders. Ahhhh dreams.