No .. no wheels ...Originally Posted by Oscar
Anarchic Wild Child
No .. no wheels ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Hardcore Biker
Maori were the only race not to have used bows and arrows but they did use other machines on a small scale.
Watchful Old Bird
If Maori had won the wars it would have been. They did'nt so it isn't, simple really.
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Forum whore
They don't - it's because they watch to much 'mer'can TV. They probably dial 911 for emergencies as well!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Bogeyman
Most alphabets started out as wee pictures, it’s a pretty obvious evolution to formalise and simplify them.
Fair enough. I was simply pointing out that other methods of recording stuff have been around for as long or longer and are in no way functionally inferior.
This is a (incomplete) list of languages: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/index.htm
This is a (incomplete) list of alphabets: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/alphabets.htm
Care to tell me about the antecedence of this one?
How do you get there from my observation about the superior recording methods of a South American culture?
I’m inferior to a bunch of people, across a wide range of skills. I’m nowhere near stupid by the generally accepted definition, and it seems to me that only one feeling a little racially inferior would make such a link as you have, there.
Me? Nobody that wasn’t there at his parents conception knows his genetic antecedence, although I’d say that given the above I’m in a better position to make a guess about yours than you are about mine.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Bogeyman
Yes.
I'm one of very few people of my acquaintance that would be alive now without antibiotics.
And when the time comes I’ll be the one who decides I’ve had enough, not some insignificant parasitic wee beastie.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Anarchic Wild Child
Yes .. the bows and arrows is interesting - especially as the tree felling machine uses that technology to drive the axe head into the tree ... it's also interersting that while the tipuna used a string to spin a drill they never used the same idea for making fire ..
I have heard a story about an atua using a bow and arrow to kill ... and the weapon was consequently banned ... I will try to pull the story out of my memory ... (but don't hold your breath ...)
Yeah .. no-one won the wars here .. as Belich said the two sides fought each other to a standstill ... but lots of other things did happen and we wound up on the lossing side ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Curmudgeon
I was a rhesus negative baby (hemolytic disease where the mothers blood is incompatible with the fetus).
In days of yore, my life expectancy was about 24 hours.
So not only did I live longer (by a factor of 18,000 so far), I'm a lot better off...
Anarchic Wild Child
Yes .. that's about it ..
I am not sure what that one is ...Care to tell me about the antecedence of this one?
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What irked me is exactly that concept - "superior recording methods" of another culture ... Is it really necessary to put down Māori culture in the way that you do (and others do to)? especially as a knotted string was a technique used here (tho' you might not have known that ...)How do you get there from my observation about the superior recording methods of a South American culture?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Curmudgeon
Belich is an idiot.
He crapped on about Maori "..defying the might of the British Empire" like they stood up to ten divisions of crack infantry.
Now the Maori did put up a great fight, but the colonial side consisted of armed constabulary and some Sydney Militia.
The British attitude to NZ was ambigious - it was really only part of the Empire to stop the French and Whitehall was annoyed at the settlers who caused the problems in the first place - which was reflected in the resources that were allocated to these skirmishes.
Anarchic Wild Child
Bwhahahaha ... some of us might suggest (tongue in cheek of course) that the world is NOT a better place with you in it ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Curmudgeon
Er - are these not your words?
how come you dumb white cunts did not invent any writing ???
Curmudgeon
Ah, that's your reality - my reality is that it's a much better place with me in it!Bwhahahaha ... some of us might sugegst (tongue in cheek of course) that the world is NOT a better place with you in it ...
Anarchic Wild Child
You're so wrong .. (all from Wikipedia ... )
"The British Army were professional soldiers who had experience fighting in various parts of the Empire, many from India and Afghanistan, although front-line units were never sent (in contrast to, say, South Africa or other parts of the Empire). They were led by officers who were themselves trained by men who fought at Waterloo"
Northern War (Hone Heke)
"The colonial government attempted to re-establish its authority in the Bay of Islands on 28 March 1845 with the arrival of troops from the 58th, 96th and 99th Regiments with Royal Marines and a Congreve rocket unit, under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel William Hulme."
At Ohaeawai
"Although it was now the middle of the southern winter, Lieutenant Colonel Despard insisted on resuming the campaign immediately with troops from the 58th and 99th Regiments, Royal Marines and a detachment of artillery "
The First Taranaki War
"The war was fought by more than 3,500 imperial troops brought in from Australia, as well as volunteer soldiers and militia"
Waikato War
"the Colonial Office in London to send more than 10,000 Imperial troops to New Zealand and General Sir Duncan Cameron was appointed to lead the campaign. Cameron used soldiers to build the 18km-long Great South Road to the border of Kingite territory (Total troop numbers reached 10,000 in January 1864 before peaking at about 14,000 in March 1864—9000 Imperial troops, more than 4000 colonial and a few hundred kūpapa, or pro-British Māori"
"Cameron arrived at Rangiriri with about 850 men, chiefly of the 65th, 14th and 12th Regiments, to make the frontal assault. A second division of 320 men of the 40th Regiment under Lieut-Colonel Arthur Leslie with additional naval backup, were transported by barge further south with the aim of gaining possession of a ridge 500 metres behind the main entrenchment and cutting off any escape"
The Second Taranaki War
The buildup increased rapidly under Grey's term as Governor: when the second round of hostilities broke out in Taranaki in May 1863 he applied to the Secretary of State in London for the immediate dispatch of three more regiments and also wrote to the Australian Governors asking for whatever British troops that could be made available.[26] Lieutenant-General Duncan Cameron, the Commander-in-Chief of the British troops in New Zealand, began the Waikato invasion in July with fewer than 4000 effective troops in Auckland at his disposal, but the continuous arrival of regiments from overseas rapidly swelled the force."
Enough! .. that's enough to show how wrong you are .. it is certainly trrue that latter battlesd and zskirmishes were with homegrown troops .. but up to 10,000 Imperial forces were snet here and fought here ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
Yeah .. I was making a slightly different point - the point being that white people (who did not invent writing) can hardly feel superior to Māori who did not invent writing ... and paraphrasing Duckonin .. if you follow the trail backwards you will see it ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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