David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Hinny]

Here's the pic.

Has anybody noticed the marks continue on to his index finger.
As somebody else pointed out the marks do not correspond to the inner edges of the mag which is where any residue would have had to come from to make such sharp edges.

More clutching at straws.

Human bladder capacity now determined to be three to four litres (according to Joe Karam) is still the one that cracks me up the most.
Imagine going to have a leak at the pub with a full bladder.
You would probably still be there by the time some guys came back to have a second slash. lol

[Banditbandit]

Has anybody noticed the marks continue on to his index finger.

The forefinger or the thumb can be used to load the magazine in the way that is suggested - both would leave marks on whichever was used .. if both methods we used in a close time frame then with the hand in a relaxed position they might appear to line up, as is the case in this picture.

As somebody else pointed out the marks do not correspond to the inner edges of the mag which is where any residue would have had to come from to make such sharp edges.

More clutching at straws.

I reproduced such marks on my finger using one of my magazines and loading it in the way suggested - and I had not fired the gun immediately prior to doing that - nor do I have a semi automatic - so there is less chance of flash poweder residue being left on my magazine ...

In the case of a semi automatic weapon I would expect the flash resudue to be mainly concentrated around the front edge of the magazine - close to the bullet - where the flash powder hits as the slide is pushed backwards.

When loading the magaizine it is only necessary to push the shell such that your thumb or forefinger only pass over the front of the magazine ... you do not have to run your finger over the whole magazine ... so the folded over part of the mag top would not necessarily come in contact with the finger or thumb. ANd if you look at the magazine in the picture, the base of the shell protudes above the magazine, which may wel stop the finger (or thumb) coming in contact with the folder over part of the mag ...

Human bladder capacity now determined to be three to four litres (according to Joe Karam)

Yes - while there is a range of authorataticve bladder capacity limits from half a litre to one litre (http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/DanielShaw.shtml) Karam's range is still over that amount ...

is still the one that cracks me up the most.
Imagine going to have a leak at the pub with a full bladder.
You would probably still be there by the time some guys came back to have a second slash. lol

Yes .. but what is even more surprising to me is that he had a full bladder ... it is more usual for the muscles to relax at death - and for dead bodies to have urine flowing out of them ... even for dead bodies to excrete faeces ... I would expect Robin to have been liying in a pool of his own urine - the fact that his ballder was full and he was not lying in urine is more surprising than that he killed his family with a ful bladder ...

But hey - life never follows a perfect pattern. This set of murders has quite a few what we might call anomolies and mysteries that may never be resolved ... the mysteries remain whichever person is held to be the killer ...

[Maha]

The left mark on the thumb is curved inwards, thus not matching the straight edges on the magazine...

But anyway...
It a given that David Bain wasn’t the smartest sperm to ever leave the safe confines of his father’s ball bags. There is money to be made in his story. How much could he command in a ‘’Tell All’’ interview? Trouble with that is, he couldn’t conduct such an interview without his ‘other’ voice being present. He is more in kin with a ventriloquist puppet.

[Katman]

He is more in kin with a ventriloquist puppet.

Have you got Ed's hand up your arse?

[Maha]

Have you got Ed's hand up your arse?

I knew as soon as I posted you would be straight in there, you're so transparent, that I really shouldn't take advantage of it as often as I do...

Did you not notice the waiting icon at the end, all for you Steve. Now if Madness will just chime in, I will get the quinella...

[Banditbandit]

The left mark on the thumb is curved inwards, thus not matching the straight edges on the magazine...

The thumb is not a flat surface - nor is it a hard surface - it is not too hard to imagine that pressure on the skin distorted the surface so that a mark made by a hard straight surface would not be a straight line when the skin returned to normal ...

(Or maybe it is too hard for kbers to imagine ...)

[Maha]

The thumb is not a flat surface - nor is it a hard surface - it is not too hard to imagine that pressure on the skin distorted the surface so that a mark made by a hard straight surface would not be a straight line when the skin returned to normal ...

(Or maybe it is too hard for kbers to imagine ...)

Gun expert opinion stated that, the lines are parallel, which clearly they are not.
Grab a small row of paper staples and press it into your thumb for 10 seconds...then post a photo of it, who knows, it may bolster your theory.

[Katman]

I knew as soon as I posted you would be straight in there, you're so transparent, that I really shouldn't take advantage of it as often as I do...

Damn, thwarted by superior intellect again.

[unstuck]

Damn, thwarted by superior intellect again.

At least you can admit it.

[Katman]

At least you can admit it.

Hey, if I didn't say it Maha would have.

[unstuck]

Hey, if I didn't say it Maha would have.

[scumdog]

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Technically it's not. I said I could understand the frustration if it were nano-seconds, it wouldn't however alter my opinion on the topic. Ten minutes is ten minutes is ten minutes. How is this such a difficult concept to grasp?



Irrelevant. The ten minute period is what lost the popo the case, not the breath alcohol content. The popo fucked up, simple.



The lawyer paid full attention to the intent of the laws that require due process and accuracy of facts. The popo fucked up, simple. Are you a Jehovas Witness by chance?



Nothing wrong with the law in this case, just the numpties enforcing them.
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Ah well, I admit defeat - it's time we had infallible cops that never misjudge or make mistakes

Hey, tell ya what Madness, you and your mistake free perfect workmates should join the Police and show us how it's done properly, the job's a doddle (apparently...) so it won't take too long for you and your mates to pick it up and do it perfectly!.

Or if your not game feel free to point out where we can source similar perfect people - obviously the recruiting officers are making too many mistakes in selecting new cops so no use using THEM...

A shame these perfect cops weren't around at the time of the Bain shoot-'em-up eh?

[Mushu]

Ah well, I admit defeat - it's time we had infallible cops that never misjudge or make mistakes

Hey, tell ya what Madness, you and your mistake free perfect workmates should join the Police and show us how it's done properly, the job's a doddle (apparently...) so it won't take too long for you and your mates to pick it up and do it perfectly!.

Or if your not game feel free to point out where we can source similar perfect people - obviously the recruiting officers are making too many mistakes in selecting new cops so no use using THEM...

A shame these perfect cops weren't around at the time of the Bain shoot-'em-up eh?

There's plenty of professions where mistakes are not tolerated, how would you react if you were having an operation and the surgeon hadn't bothered to do part of his job?
I've spent most of my life as a forklift driver, often a slight mistake would have cost me my job.
What about pilots or electricians or truck drivers, if any of these people take their jobs as lightly as or police seem to people die.

Mistakes can happen but the NZ police have a culture of half assing it and not giving a fuck about the consequences, as plainly evident in your own attitude.

You want a suggestion on how to fix this? How about some kind of penalties to the cops that don't do things properly.

[scumdog]

There's plenty of professions where mistakes are not tolerated, how would you react if you were having an operation and the surgeon hadn't bothered to do part of his job?
I've spent most of my life as a forklift driver, often a slight mistake would have cost me my job.
What about pilots or electricians or truck drivers, if any of these people take their jobs as lightly as or police seem to people die.

Mistakes can happen but the NZ police have a culture of half assing it and not giving a fuck about the consequences, as plainly evident in your own attitude.

Who gives a fuck...

[Mushu]

Who gives a fuck...

my point exactly... YOU should give a fuck