Frame sliders?

**cfxjason** · 6th July 2013, 17:08

hi all today i saw my best mates brand new 1250 bandit sliding down the road he is ok and the bike is not bad at all but seing that realy scared me so now im on the search for some sliders for my 2010 gsx650f it cheeper to have them even if i never use em,so does anyone now how much and were from and do i need to do any mods to the plastics to fit them (i hope not)...cheers all

**Erelyes** · 6th July 2013, 17:13

I'd suggest having a read of this viewpoint on them.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_..._frame_sliders

I quickly discounted them. If you have expensive protruding engine bits to protect, they may well be worthwhile. If your bike's engine is protected by the fairings anyways, I don't know that I'd bother.

Have heard anecdotally that if they catch on something (cat's eye, pothole, water valve cover, kerb, etc) they will do a lovely job of twisting or breaking whatever they're mounted to - which will usually be your frame or engine.

**Gremlin** · 6th July 2013, 17:36

Slow speed stuff, likely to help.

As said above, if they catch on anything, then they can ruin the frame of the bike (and that's usually a write off in itself) or flip the bike when it catches. A motorcycle that has flipped is usually a write off candidate as well

**Biggles08** · 6th July 2013, 18:16

Originally Posted by cfxjason

hi all today i saw my best mates brand new 1250 bandit sliding down the road he is ok and the bike is not bad at all but seing that realy scared me so now im on the search for some sliders for my 2010 gsx650f it cheeper to have them even if i never use em,so does anyone now how much and were from and do i need to do any mods to the plastics to fit them (i hope not)...cheers all

http://www.bigknobs.com.au/ and tell Paul Biggles sent you.

They are great to protect vaunerable parts of your bike from damage in a slide but will not stop scratches. It depends what you want them for and it really depends on the design/build quality as to the outcome. Paul designs them to protect your bike in a crash which is afterall what they are for. If you just want good wank value, go get some generic "no cut" sliders that will most likely trash your bike even more if you crash...but hey, until then they will look cool.

Remember, you get what you pay for.

Biggles

**Mushu** · 6th July 2013, 18:38

It seems to me that frame sliders are just as likely to turn a small slide into a write off event as they are to protect anything important.

If you're really worried about dropping your bike a crash cage might do the trick, not sure what they cost but the fact that they are bolted in several places should make them less likely to damage your frame in a crash but still may digg in and cause your bike to flip rather than slide.

There is the other point that if you wind up under the bike the protruding sliders or cage could potentially do you some damage too.

**cfxjason** · 6th July 2013, 18:41

mmmm not sure what to do a i want them to protect the plastics,but then again i have allways wanted a naked/street fighter that would solve the problem all id need is some case savers....mmmmmm

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 18:53

The plastics are not the bit that'll get the protection usually. It's near on impossible to have stuff sticking out far enough to be able to work with any consistency.

Every now and again they work, but usually not.

Engine covers however, are BOSS. Particularly on nearly any multi cylinder Suzuki. Drop it on the left, and it'll piss oil from the stator cover nearly every time. So the kevlar/carbon covers that fit over them are good.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 6th July 2013, 19:16

My street triple came with crash bungs which are FUGLY. I have fitted a set of GB Racing engine covers and am considering removing the ugly huge sticky outy pieces of crap. Having said that I decked my Hornet 900 on a trackday and the crash bung saved the fuel tank and radiator so there was that.

check out the pix in this thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-and-yesterday

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 19:22

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

My street triple came with crash bungs which are FUGLY. I have fitted a set of GB Racing engine covers and am considering removing the ugly huge sticky outy pieces of crap. Having said that I decked my Hornet 900 on a trackday and the crash bung saved the fuel tank and radiator so there was that.

check out the pix in this thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-and-yesterday

I crashed my Hornet, and the oggy knob broke the engine mount off the bloody barells. Slow crash, could have ridden the bike home if it weren't for all the oil coming out of the hole.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 6th July 2013, 19:31

Originally Posted by Drew

I crashed my Hornet, and the oggy knob broke the engine mount off the bloody barells. Slow crash, could have ridden the bike home if it weren't for all the oil coming out of the hole.

Yowch. that sucks. I think I will go take the ones of the sTreet tRiple right now...

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 19:35

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Yowch. that sucks. I think I will go take the ones of the sTreet tRiple right now...

Depends on where they mount I guess. But doubling angine mounts with four to six inches of leverage is not the best idea anyone ever came up with.

**SPP** · 6th July 2013, 19:42

Originally Posted by Biggles08

http://www.bigknobs.com.au/ If you just want good wank value, go get some generic "no cut" sliders that will most likely trash your bike even more if you crash...but hey, until then they will look cool.

Biggles

Originally Posted by Drew

The plastics are not the bit that'll get the protection usually. It's near on impossible to have stuff sticking out far enough to be able to work with any consistency.

Every now and again they work, but usually not.

Engine covers however, are BOSS. Particularly on nearly any multi cylinder Suzuki. Drop it on the left, and it'll piss oil from the stator cover nearly every time. So the kevlar/carbon covers that fit over them are good.

This.

For the most part I’ve gone off frame sliders. I’ve seen them shear and flange the frame, shear and punch holes in other parts, rotate and fuck the frame and plastics. No-cut are probably the worst but even direct mount will shear if they hit anything (long). I have some very low profile woodcraft in the shed that won’t save the plastics but could save rub through damage.

Low profile axle sliders and engine covers, these can avoid a trailer home. Take a squiz at Woodcraft or GB Racing engine covers. I have a set of GB Racing covers which are okay and Woodcraft do case replacements with thick alloy slide plates.

**AllanB** · 6th July 2013, 19:55

Engine mounted Hornet crash bungs have a bit of a rep for breaking the engine mounts. Honda's own ones frame mount them.

I moved my engine mounted ones to the frame after seeing pix of broken engine mounts.

My theory is they are great for tips or low speed offs. The save a lot of damage in earthquakes!!!!! My theory extends to this - if I have a big off, then I'd probably prefer the knob to flip the bike so it is well fucked and a write off, as I'd hate a patch up!

**SPP** · 6th July 2013, 20:14

Originally Posted by AllanB

Engine mounted Hornet crash bungs have a bit of a rep for breaking the engine mounts. Honda's own ones frame mount them.

I moved my engine mounted ones to the frame after seeing pix of broken engine mounts.

My theory is they are great for tips or low speed offs. The save a lot of damage in earthquakes!!!!! My theory extends to this - if I have a big off, then I'd probably prefer the knob to flip the bike so it is well fucked and a write off, as I'd hate a patch up!

True. Mounting sticky-out things to the engine is asking for trouble.