David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Smifffy]

My Missus comes from North America and held the Police in the utmost of respect, right up until that case. Me, I always knew they NZ popo are dodgy, I'd just never been arse fucked by them personally until then. Cunts.

Ken A! My wife is also from N America, and still has that attitude. After a couple of trips over there, I can see why, despite the donut munching stereotypes. Very helpful.

One time in Oz I was enjoying some vendor hospitality at an aussie rules game. Hospitality was quite good, given his expense account. Afterwards as we wander/staggered out of the stadium looking for somewhere to eat, we couldn't find anywhere, since for him it was an away game in the suburbs and for me I was in austruckinfalia. He decided to bowl up to a couple of popo standing on a street corner to ask them about restaurants. As a clean living, law abiding kiwi this idea shocked me. "Don't go near them" I protested. "They'll just get stroppy or take the piss and tell us to fuck off, being as we're 4 sheets to the wind" instead we ended up in a street of good restaurants and I had a great meal on his expense account.

The cop in the USA that helped us out when her mom's car broke down, or the time we got lost in our rental car in the dodgiest part of town in a dodgy city, were much better than we would have expected from an NZ copper.

[Hinny]

The performance of New Zealand Police, lawyers, Judges and justice generally is being placed in question now almost every day and seems to be getting worse!

Taking a leaf out of defence councils book perhaps we should be outsourcing these services to countries that have the required level of expertise!

This might get better results and save a lot of taxpayers money!

Defence councils outsource these services by constantly referring and demanding that we use the British Privy Council to usurp the NZ services for better legal interpretations!

NZ Police could then focus entirely on general policing duties and traffic duties which they seem more suited and trained for therefore solving the recruiting shortages at the same time!

There used to be a commonly used convention that one would put p/t at the end of a post like yours.
I assume the emoticon was supposed to take that place.

I'm not sure that most on here would pick up on that subtlety.

[scumdog]

eld the Police in the utmost of respect, right up until that case. Me, I always knew they NZ popo are dodgy, I'd just never been arse fucked by them personally until then. Cunts.

The 'perk' of living near a large population??

Better service (and work stories) down here...

[Edbear]

Try as I might, I've never had dodgy dealings with the Police. I do most things right, obey the law and all that, but never have the Police targetted me to stitch me up or charge me falsely. What am I doing wrong..?

[Madness]

Try as I might, I've never had dodgy dealings with the Police. I do most things right, obey the law and all that, but never have the Police targetted me to stitch me up or charge me falsely. What am I doing wrong..?

That's very short-sighted of you Ed but we've come to expect that from you so it comes as no surprise. Cock.

[Edbear]

That's very short-sighted of you Ed but we've come to expect that from you so it comes as no surprise. Cock.

Touchy today... LOL!!! Hook, line and sinker!

[Madness]

Touchy today... LOL!!! Hook, line and sinker!

Whatever Ed. I must say I'm saddened by the thought that your health must be on the improve.

[Swoop]

I think David's keenness to get the rifle back is very telling.

Please tell us more.

DB is not "getting it back" as it is an exhibit of the court and will not be released, let alone returned, to him.
He will not be at the testing of the rifle either, due to work commitments.

So your comment is intended as...???

[Hinny]

Please tell us more.

DB is not "getting it back" as it is an exhibit of the court and will not be released, let alone returned, to him.
He will not be at the testing of the rifle either, due to work commitments.

So your comment is intended as...???

Tell you more about what?

'DB is not "getting it back"' - How can you be sure he won't get it back?
The case is over and done with. Double jeopardy means he can't be tried again. (Teach them to put all 5 murders in one charge).
Since he can't be tried again the Bain/Karam camp (or is that the Karam/Bain camp) have argued that the courts no longer have any need for it and as it is David's property it should be returned to him.

Intent of my comment - was to highlight one more occurrence of the 'stifle all investigation of the case' programme they have run.
The 'stifle all evidence in the case' programme proved to be, IMO, the winning strategy whereby they were able to get most of the evidence against David suppressed or called into question by (dodgy) 'experts'.
The British fingerprint expert Carl Lloyd who reckoned the prints were not in human blood and it may not have been blood at all.
This may well have raised a doubt in the minds of the jury. It certainly appears to have been considered proof by some that Davids fingerprints were not in human blood .
This is clearly rubbish. The fresh blood covering the rifle had David's fresh fingerprints in it when it was examined at the beginning of the investigation. It was determined to have been from David, Stephen or Laniet. No other members of the family.
Conjecture on the part of the Pommie 'expert' was not able to be refuted by the prosecution as the blood had degraded to the point where they could no longer establish anything from it. Two sides to the coin - obviously the expert could not prove his outlandish claim either. - That appears to be overlooked by 'believers'.

The possibility that a new process in the future could definitively show that it was human blood could be a good reason to get the rifle and dispose of it asap.

[Hinny]

His Mum made the jerseys he wore - to his designs. That was almost enough to have him locked up.

I will stand corrected but didn't a policeman give him "the jersey" which is now infamous.[/QUOTE]

The famous Harlequin jersey was knitted by David's mum to his design which he kind of made up as it went along.

[98tls]

The famous Harlequin jersey was knitted by David's mum to his design which he kind of made up as it went along.

Bit like his version of events.Maybe the answers are hidden in the knitting.

[Edbear]

Whatever Ed. I must say I'm saddened by the thought that your health must be on the improve.

Awwww... Who would you have to red rep if I karked it..?

[oldrider]

It would be interesting for just David and Joe to sit down while David does a private lie detector test, at least then Joe would know as much as David does!

As it is now only David knows the truth and he aint telling because Joe won't let him! .... Just what is it that drives Joe?

[Banditbandit]

'Hunters get blood on weapons after a kill.' That is a ridiculous assertion. Like saying they get food on their clothing after eating.
Why the hell would you pick up a dead rabbit by the part of the animal that has got blood on it? That would just be dumb.

I gut rabbits and hares (and everything else I shoot) almost straight away - less weight to carry for a start.

And while I try to wipe all the blood off on the grass there is always some that gets onto the rifle.

Well - there you go - exactly - and it is a cop who gave you the answer

[Swoop]

'DB is not "getting it back"' - How can you be sure he won't get it back?

Perhaps a small detail, like getting a firearms licence?