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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    ok... I'll give it a shot, bear with me, I'm a little slow. . . let me see,. . . so the Fat cats on the top of the pyramid are getting rich by taking money off the unemployed. Oh right I see. The barstards!

    but I'm uneasy about the equation somewhere. Never mind I'll let out some outrage and try not to think about it Leave the maths for the pointy heads.

    Then best we go kill some of these Zombies hanging around on Parliament steps. grab the shovels.
    Cooperation will see us all prosper. It will make many things in this life less of a struggle for a huge number of people.

    Tax cuts = less money to go into "social living". Yes, the fat cats are getting rich by taking money off the unemployed. Are there enough jobs. No. Are there enough well paying jobs. No. Then you're going to have to have a portion of your population that are unemployed. They need looked after. The cost of living is rising (not just food, but services too) which requires more tax income in order to help cover the costs of the unemployed blah blah blah.

    ... why does it always come down to let's kill the rich guys?
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon View Post
    Maybe if you gave a better description, more people would actually click on the link.
    Quite true... but I wouldn't want my preconceptions to taint what is actually a fair whiff of reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    ... why does it always come down to let's kill the rich guys?
    Because the "have more" always want more & are never happy with what they've got......Greed .How much does someone need? to some there's never enough but how much do they really require...less than they've actually got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    The subject matter is important, but when the presenter starts out with preconceived notions of the the problem and then sets out to make the fact fit his narrative...yeah, nah.
    +1

    I lasted five minutes.
    He makes about as much sense as Mashman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Because the "have more" always want more & are never happy with what they've got......Greed .How much does someone need? to some there's never enough but how much do they really require...less than they've actually got.
    They only get more because we keep on printing more. Print none and they get OMG, none

    I liken "greed" to a CEO of a company using the best PC on the market for emails, internet, spreadsheets and word processing, just because it's the best PC on the market. Whilst there are other people in the company that could make better use of the PC, he has it, because he deserves the best.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Even the promo couldn't hold my attention, chose to chew some tin foil instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    They only get more because we keep on printing more. Print none and they get OMG, none
    most of them don't see the material version of their wealth, it's just wee numbers ticking over in their bank accounts


    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I liken "greed" to a CEO of a company using the best PC on the market for emails, internet, spreadsheets and word processing, just because it's the best PC on the market. Whilst there are other people in the company that could make better use of the PC, he has it, because he deserves the best.
    Greed
    Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    most of them don't see the material version of their wealth, it's just wee numbers ticking over in their bank accounts

    Greed
    Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort.
    True... as long as it doesn't come down to the last 10mill, 10thou, 10hundy, 10dlr all is well with the world

    So Greed is a mental health issue then
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    If there is more money available the value of an asset will rise. banks love houses as they are reasonably safe investments. If the value of an asset rises then so does the purchase price. Also , such as in Christchurch, supply and demand have influence pushing the cost of a house up

    The accepted ratio for hose to income is around 30% of income. Or something called mortgage stress may occur.

    If the income is not matching , you end up with Tokarora (sp) or Hornby !

    not rocket science

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Greed
    Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort.
    Wot? Like motorcycles then? Got to be one of the greediest forms of transport... Hmm... I think I see where you are going wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    So Greed is a mental health issue then
    Megalomania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Wot? Like motorcycles then? Got to be one of the greediest forms of transport... Hmm... I think I see where you are going wrong...
    Self indulgence maybe but not greed the only comparison of greed in motorcycling would be the ones who think having the latest & greatest bike available makes them better than the person who has something that is 20yrs old...reality of fact is that that train of thinking makes them less of a motorcyclist and pretty shallow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Even the promo couldn't hold my attention, chose to chew some tin foil instead.
    Eeeeeeee that annoying yet pleasurable tingle on the fillings.

    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Megalomania
    Goooood word. Had to look it up. Bit close to home
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    Probably because his preconceptions and yours line up so well...capitalism's bad, mmkay?
    He didn't say capitalism was bad,,,,but rather that it was broken in NZ due to the total lack of responsibility shown by big business in NZ that the middle class has now become used to the gov'ts bailing them out with "our" money when they fuck up.

    Which if you'd watched with both eyes open and your mouth shut you might of noticed.

    Not that that's ever going to happen huh.

    You might of also noticed that in NZ you can rip off the country for millions in tax fraud and get away with it,,but if you commit benefit fraud for a few thou' your likely to go to jail.

    Two laws,,,one for the super rich and another for the peasants.

    Mind you I will admit that Tax expert looked like a screaming meth head if I ever saw one,,,fuck me.

    Anybody else also notice all the losers shown where honkies,,,I loved that bit.

    Maybe they'll feature smoky next week.....

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    Its all about "Dead Money".

    Money is required to remain in circulation for Capitalism to work effectively. That's where it fails... When there is a small portion of population with a significant portion of $$...

    As long as I can protect,feed, clothe and house my children.. I'm not going to complain. It is what it is and without a total revolution, it will remain the same.

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