David Shearer quits

[MisterD]

And a current Prime Minsietr defined by his wide boy trader skills ...

Oh come on, the left have been trying to imbed that meme for how many years without success?

The current PM is defined by his ability to come across as an ordinary Kiwi bloke, willingness to answer any question no matter how daft, being "relaxed" about stuff that doesn't go his way and a fear of taking any decision that might risk his popularity.

[Oscar]

And a current Prime Minsietr defined by his wide boy trader skills ...

Maybe at the start.
But if that's all you've got on him, and these three are the best Labour have got - you're gonna be stuck with him for a while.

[MisterD]

and all three would run a party that represents most New Zealanders far better than the corrupt, thieving, lying, scumbags currently in charge.....

I don't think "most New Zealanders" agree with you. The central message of Shane Jones' leadership campaign is that the Labour party has become a factionalised, navel-gazing, bunch of out-of-touch ex-student politicians, academics and poofs who no longer represent or care about the ordinary working person.

[Oscar]

and all three would run a party that represents most New Zealanders far better than the corrupt, thieving, lying, scumbags currently in charge.....

That's pretty funny.
Apart from Jones, which of the Labour MP's do you think represent the common NZer?
The gay ones?
The "never had a proper job in their life academics"?
The quota MP's (on the list due to their race, sexual persuasion or other)?
The Former Unionists?


The Labour Party is so far from average NZer's they are struggling to stay relevant.

[Ocean1]

I don't think "most New Zealanders" agree with you.

Apparently not. But the left are focusing on ther usual empty can tactic and just hoping that ugly democracy thing will all go away.

The central message of Shane Jones' leadership campaign is that the Labour party has become a factionalised, navel-gazing, bunch of out-of-touch ex-student politicians, academics and poofs who no longer represent or care about the ordinary working person....

... what few of us are left...

[Clockwork]

The really sad thing is that Ruddiculous didn't lose his seat, that would have been the icing on the cake for that nasty piece of work.

The travelling road show of the "three stooges" is eminently entertaining!

The "must play nicely" with each other and not "slag off the party" rules are entertaining enough. The icing on the cake is the moronic stupidity of the 50/50 rule. Eliminating a person from selection who might be greatly superior for a position because that person is the "wrong" sex? Far out. The liarbour idiocracy appears to know no bounds!

Hey, you forgot the [no]Mana "movement"...

It seems the latest scoring, is Caucus in favour of Robertson, Unions want Cun*liffe and membership are starting to like Jonesey's one-liners.

The aftermath of this is going to be hilarious, whoever wins. I'd like to see Cunners come out on top, just to see Mallard and Hipkins get the knife

Christ mate! They've got the homosexual, the lonely wanker and the prick his own caucus christened "silent T". Have you heard Cun*liffe's speech at the Avondale markets from the last election? Cocks so down with the workers that he fabricates a "bro pasifika" accent. Unbelievable.

Cuntliffe looks like he is trying to kiss and smoke at the same time....

He was a useless son of a bitch....past experience was on the UN gravey train of dumb people that think they are smart.

Lay-boar is in such a disarray know one knows whos thumb is up whos arse at the moment. Public know it. Alot of people who are left leaning just won't vote this coming election. Cunlife and Robertson...can't match Key in a debate. Shane Jones would easily!! but he won't be the leader because the raninbow labour, feminist and commie union lot will vito him...swing voters will tick Key or not show up at all.

but everyone with a brain knows that...bar a few dumb shits that are tribal.

Yes he certainly is a repulsive individual to look at. And about as smug and scheming as the milky bar kid in Australia.

Jeez, why do so many supporters of the political right so frequently resort to the ad hominem. It's tiresome and rather juvenile.

If you're not twisting nouns into insulting or offensive ephithets you're pissing and moaning about how ugly the left wing pollies are

I guess it must be too difficult to attack the policies, eh?

Not sure it's a left / right thing, but I did see somewhere that the two countries tend to reach a "time for a change" mood at the same time.

Mind you, John Key is our most popular PM ever (especially after this time in Government) and Labor in Aussie were historically unpopular and really should have been turfed last time around.

I guess Aussies can afford to be anti labour, they still have a strong unions to protect them, better wages and better pensions. Co-incidence?

[Oscar]

Jeez, why do so many supporters of the political right so frequently resort to the ad hominem. It's tiresome and rather juvenile.

Wow, when did you lose the use of one eye?
The ad hominem is a time honoured tactic from all sides of the debate.

For example, what was being described here?
..the corrupt, thieving, lying, scumbags currently in charge.....

[MisterD]

I guess Aussies can afford to be anti labour, they still have a strong unions to protect them, better wages and better pensions. Co-incidence?

I think you'll find that a major reason for Labor's unpopularity is a growing realisation that Australia's unions are too strong and exist only to feather the nests of the likes of Craig Thomson

[Swoop]

I guess it must be too difficult to attack the policies, eh?

Meh. They are a joke, much like their MP's.

I haven't heard recently, which one of the three stooges has been voted off of Liarbour's not got talent?

[Winston001]

Jeez, why do so many supporters of the political right so frequently resort to the ad hominem. It's tiresome and rather juvenile.

If you're not twisting nouns into insulting or offensive epithets you're pissing and moaning about how ugly the left wing pollies are

I guess it must be too difficult to attack the policies, eh?

Agreed but unfortunately those on the left do exactly the same thing - as Oscar vividly points out above. I find the name calling dispiriting in political blogs but on KB...well it sort of adds to the fun. Just look past the silly stuff.

I guess Aussies can afford to be anti labour, they still have a strong unions to protect them, better wages and better pensions. Co-incidence?

You touch on an interesting point. It is true that Australia enjoys employment structures and protections that disappeared in NZ 20 years ago. But that has not contributed to Australia's wealth. Instead they are indeed a lucky country with vast natural resources which have protected employment and their economy for 30 years.

Right now financial analysts are saying OZ is heading down and has to free up its labour and business laws. Did you know that in Queensland you need a license to open a stationary shop?? Bad luck if there is already one up the street.

[Banditbandit]

Oh come on, the left have been trying to imbed that meme for how many years without success?

The current PM is defined by his ability to come across as an ordinary Kiwi bloke, willingness to answer any question no matter how daft, being "relaxed" about stuff that doesn't go his way and a fear of taking any decision that might risk his popularity.

Oh .. so that's why he traded a convention centre for more pokie machines ... wat cost principles ?

All you talk about goes to his electability - not his competency or his politics .. he's a nice bloke ??? Fuck me - is that all it takes to be PM ???

[Oscar]

Oh .. so that's why he traded a convention centre for more pokie machines ... wat cost principles ?

There have been a lot of lies, half truths and hysteria talked about that deal.
When all is said and done, how many more machines will be in Auckland, and who will be using them?

Notwithstanding that, it is a legal activity and if you're advocating banning legal pass times down that track lies the spectre of no gambling, no drinks, no smokes and no dangerous forms of transport....

[Banditbandit]

There have been a lot of lies, half truths and hysteria talked about that deal.
When all is said and done, how many more machines will be in Auckland, and who will be using them?

Notwithstanding that, it is a legal activity and if you're advocating banning legal pass times down that track lies the spectre of no gambling, no drinks, no smokes and no dangerous forms of transport....

I have no issues with gambling per sae ... I am not advocating banning gambling ... ( I must admit that I have been in SkyCity once - and to me it looked like Babylon ... and I left without spending any money ) .. to me this isue is not abotu the ethics or otherwise of gambling ...

My issue is that DonKey swapped gambling machines for a convention centre - without consulting the community ... involving a law change by Parliament to make it happen (you do realise that the numer of gambling machines SyCity is allowed is covered in an Act of Parliament) - he sold the laws of our country without proper consultation ... is this a democracy or do you think that it is a good idea that the Prime Minister, on his own authority, can arbitrarily change the laws of this country ??? and worse - can sell the laws for a price ???

[MisterD]

All you talk about goes to his electability - not his competency or his politics .. he's a nice bloke ??? Fuck me - is that all it takes to be PM ???

It's obviously not all it takes to be PM, but you used the word "defined", so I listed what I think defines him as a politician.

His business style is most obvious to me in the way he is prepared to have talented people around him and delegate to them, by contrast the Labour party seem to be suffering from Clarke's determination to surround herself with mediocrity to make her look good in comparison...

[Oscar]

I have no issues with gambling per sae ... I am not advocating banning gambling ... ( I must admit that I have been in SkyCity once - and to me it looked like Babylon ... and I left without spending any money ) .. to me this isue is not abotu the ethics or otherwise of gambling ...

My issue is that DonKey swapped gambling machines for a convention centre - without consulting the community ... involving a law change by Parliament to make it happen (you do realise that the numer of gambling machines SyCity is allowed is covered in an Act of Parliament) - he sold the laws of our country without proper consultation ... is this a democracy or do you think that it is a good idea that the Prime Minister, on his own authority, can arbitrarily change the laws of this country ??? and worse - can sell the laws for a price ???

The PM did not change the law by his own authority.
It was an act of parliament.
An act that was foreshadowed through at least one election.

Did you have an issue with laws being enacted or changed so as to get the Rugby World Cup?
Governments of all flavours do that all the time.

Did you know there is a sinking lid on the number of Pokie machines in Auckland?
The new ones in the Casino (which has a problem gambler progamme) will replace many from South Auckland (which does not).